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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 35 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Anyone using Lineage? How is it?

I’ve got a Pixel 7 and have been wondering

[–] sem@lemmy.ml 60 points 5 months ago (3 children)

To be honest I do not see any reason to use Lineage with Pixel while there is GrapheneOS... But maybe there will be some users of it: it is always better to have more free open OS

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The only use case i guess if you prefer microG implementation v sandboxed GPS.

I think GOS model will end up being proven right from security/privacy perspective but the debate is ongoing.

GOS chief should not be in any public facing communication position though... that weaponized autism with heavy dose of paranoia is what is needed to develop GOS but not a good look objectively, and I give people a lot benefit of doubt.

[–] bradboimler@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I use GOS and agree with you completely some of the things GOS has done and said in the past should have never happened and hurt GOS more than it helped it. Also on the micro G front You are correct still being debated but as long as Micro G is signature spoofing it is my opinion it is not secure as signature spoofing requires kernel changes that in fact weaken Android's security model.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe an unpopular opinion here, the Android security model is based around trusting the vendor of the device or ROM more than the end-user, which I find wrong in principle. The origin of trust needs to be fully in the hands of the owner of the device. Otherwise you take away the self-determination of the users, and that should never be an option when it comes to security.

Users themselves should be able to give or take away trust however they choose, and if they are unsure on whom to trust for certain things, they should be able to delegate that trust-management to a third-party on their own accord and with the ability to revoke it at any point.

Everyone is different, and trusts entities to different degrees. For instance I would trust MicroG more to only transmit data that is absolutely required to google servers, than the gapps.

Also, modifying the kernel is already done by google, in order to provide hardware support, so patching it additionally doesn't automatically make it more or less secure. That depends on what those patches do, and if those patches are properly maintained.

[–] bradboimler@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Correct but GOS reverses alot of Google patches like always on voice requires kernel privalage it is disabled on GOS etc. But kernel level signature spoofing gives way for a malicious app to spoof as micro g and infect your device and you would never know because micro g requires the same thing to function it is making itself look like Google when it is not google. So using microg opens your device up to allot more ways for it to be compromised and also makes it harder to detect or notice once it is compromised. For me the security risk of kernel level spoofing is way to high to use on a production device used everyday. Also I trust neither Google or microg I only use Foss apps I don't have Sandboxed play services installed at all I just don't use Google anymore.

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[–] RelativeArea0@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

its alright, it kept my "supposed to be dead" phone to keep on running with latest stuff, i like the built in firewall, but if you're privicy focused then this is not for you.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 points 5 months ago

It's annoying to upgrade between whole number android versions.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago

I used it extensively ony Samsung Galaxy S4 until Android 9 or 11. Was very good (model jflte(xx))

[–] pirtedad@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was planning to move to Lineage, and eventually GrapheneOS (non Pixel at the moment) but revolut has broken compatibility by enforcing the use of the Play Integrity API, revolut is my main bank so I'm kinda blocked, for now... 🤬

[–] bradboimler@startrek.website 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

My last bank did that so I switched banks my new bank app works without any play services installed on GOS.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

that's the spirit

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I dont get why anyone would use LineageOS on a phone that new and that well supported by custom roms (GraphineOS, /e/os, etc)

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

True But maybe might be helpful if the phone hits EOL?

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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Their devs dont really care about security so id say its not safe at all.

[–] dko1905@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Any source on this?

Lineage allows people to have newer android/security patches on end-of-life phones, that's a pretty good security argument.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I connect my glucometer (Dexcom G6) with my phone and I'm assuming lineage wouldn't work with it.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Lineage is just Android, however, some apps (Usually banking apps are the worst offender) throw a fit running on rooted/custom roms, though it's usually bypass able with varying amounts of effort. I would not expect a glucometer app to have issues, but I've seen apps throw that fit for less in the past.

Being a medical thing, I'd advise you to pickup a cheap used Android phone that's also on the supported list to test out your app first, or at least have an alternative means of monitoring it

I did some Google searching and it came up... inconclusive, though the Dexcom website has this blurb on the compatible phones section

"You can use this app on any OS that meets the minimum requirements, but Dexcom recommends not updating to a new OS before it's listed here."

And the only minimum requirement for Android is that it's v10. I also didn't see mention of root/or "unauthorized OSes" on that page and alot of the times they will put something like that if a companies app will scan for root/custom roms

So, you might be fine

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[–] bradboimler@startrek.website 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Oh damn, good to know

[–] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Out of curiosity, why do you think it wouldn’t work?

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