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NSW Police is considering authorising the use of "extraordinary" powers to search and identify protesters ahead of a pro-Palestinian rally in Sydney planned for Sunday.

Acting Commissioner Dave Hudson said an event by the Palestinian Action Group Sydney was deemed unauthorised this week due to a form not being submitted within the required time frame.

It followed a protest in front of Sydney Opera House earlier this week where racial epithets were chanted by some attendees.

On Monday night hundreds of people attended a pro-Palestinian rally outside the Sydney Opera House, while the landmark was lit in colours of the Israeli flag.

At the protest flares were lit by some in the crowd and thrown onto the forecourt steps, where rows of police officers were monitoring the situation.

Some protesters waved Palestinian flags and chanted slogans like "f… the Jews", "free Palestine" and "shame Israel".

No arrests were made and no-one was reported to have been injured.

Acting Commissioner Hudson on Friday said if the powers were used, police would be able to search attendees without reasonable cause and request identification, where failure to provide relevant documents would be deemed an offence.

The wider powers were introduced after the 2005 Cronulla riots and have been used "intermittently" since, the acting commissioner said.

"The powers are extensive, when the authority is granted all those powers will be available to us, however, we would not be looking to exercise the full suite of powers," Acting Commissioner Hudson said.

"Only the ones bespoke to the situation we're currently in, and we think those additional powers are required to appropriately and safely manage what is to occur on Sunday."

He warned protesters planning to attend not to go to the planned gathering, but said police are expecting between 300 and 400 people at the moment.

"We don't prohibit anyone from the right to protest but there are peaceful manners in which that could happen," Acting Commissioner Hudson said.

"People do have a right to protest, but there are responsibilities with that."

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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 year ago

Fuck off. Nazis can throw salutes and call for the extermination of trans people next to LNP members and that's fine. but some antisemites hang out with a protest about an ongoing and brutual occupation rapidly escalating to genocide and suddenly it's not OK?

Suddenly all your creepy surveillance powers are only good for use against climate protesters and you can't handle a tiny minority of racists trying to coopt a peaceful cause?

Ugh.

[-] veroxii@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago

If NSW Police are lucky there might be some children to strip search at the rally. Bunch of stand-up folk.

[-] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

It's such a ridiculous justification. If they were using the threat of terrorism as a justification then that would make some sense at least.

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

British and German Baby boomers are the worst.

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The reason outlined is pretty clear - the organisers of this rally are refusing to work with police to make sure the protest is run peacefully. The police clearly said they need more time to plan their side of the protest, and a police presence is absolutely required for an issue as emotionally charged as this one.

Why didn't they just delay the protest by a few more days? Refusing to do so is a massive red flag - police almost certainly won't be able to keep things under control. It's going to get ugly.

[-] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Stop spreading FUD. It will only get ugly if the police decide to make it ugly. The organisers have made it clear it's a peaceful protest. All the other protests across Australia this past week have been peaceful. The hate speech by a very small minority at the first Sydney rally was shut down by protesters and the protest organisers themselves - not by the police, the media or bandwagoning politicians.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think you understand how protest works. It's not really protest is the police tell you when and where, it's farce.

[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We don't prohibit anyone from the right to protest

We will put your name on a fucking list that says “probably a terrorist” though so maybe think twice about going before I tell your employer that you’re an antisemite for opposing the carpet bombing of refugee camps in gaza

[-] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Who gets to decide what an "appropriate" protest is? Does an appropriate protest happen to be something completely harmless which can safely be ignored, and changes nothing? Perhaps while the police freely curbstomp anyone who waved a sign too briskly?

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

In Australia, its the cops.

[-] Nath@aussie.zone 21 points 1 year ago

Hi all, I've seen a few posts on other instances about the latest Israel/Palestine flair-up turn into mini wars. Both sides have wide support on the fediverse, so you are very likely to encounter people you disagree with in any post that even references it.

If you are going to engage, please keep it civil. Opinions and genuine discorse are welcome, individual attacks on users are not. Understand that we don't tolerate personal attacks at aussie.zone. There are other places in the fediverse if you feel like fighting and being nasty.

[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

powers introduced in response to islamophobic backlash to be used in islamophobic backlash, details at 7

[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Is this dialectics? 🦋

[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

Can we be pro Palestinian people but anti Hamas and anti violence?

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

no you cant. Hamas is the name of Palestinians fighting against apartheid and genocide. If you are against Hamas you are against Palestinians. The Palestinian March of Return proved violence is the only way for Palestinians to end apartheid because nobody else will do anything to stop israel. If you want Palestinians to be non-violent you are asking them to let the zionists take their homes, nation, culture and lives.

anti Hamas and anti violence = pro genocide.

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

As much as I do believe in freedom to protest, the measures are completely justified, especially with the 'call to jihad' thats come out. This isnt a situation where one can expect protests to be peaceful

[-] ZeroEcks@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

They won't be violent fuck off lol

[-] 5ublimation@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

most steadfastly committed to free speech liberal

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone -2 points 1 year ago
[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

a*stralian hexbear here, hello compatriot

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Brigading is when you click on the article that comes up on your home page

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 8 points 1 year ago

Let me get the world's smallest violin to serenade you while you deal with the world's smallest brigade

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago

relax mate no need to be a dick

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Mate, you're the one that opened with a brigading accusation.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

If you defacto assume all protests for Palestine to not be peaceful, that is an excellent way of encouraging them not to be.

[-] Cypher@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Australian police need to back the fuck down and accept that Australian's have the right to peaceful protest, or they'll get protests without the peace.

This especially goes for their actions against climate activists.

[-] autotldr 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


NSW Police is considering authorising the use of "extraordinary" powers to search and identify protesters ahead of a pro-Palestinian rally in Sydney planned for Sunday.

Acting Commissioner Dave Hudson said an event by the Palestinian Action Group Sydney was deemed unauthorised this week due to a form not being submitted within the required time frame.

It followed a protest in front of Sydney Opera House earlier this week where racial epithets were chanted by some attendees.

On Monday night hundreds of people attended a pro-Palestinian rally outside the Sydney Opera House, while the landmark was lit in colours of the Israeli flag.

At the protest flares were lit by some in the crowd and thrown onto the forecourt steps, where rows of police officers were monitoring the situation.

Acting Commissioner Hudson on Friday said if the powers were used, police would be able to search attendees without reasonable cause and request identification, where failure to provide relevant documents would be deemed an offence.


The original article contains 327 words, the summary contains 156 words. Saved 52%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Quite an international crackdown on any criticism of israel.

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