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submitted 1 year ago by LemmysMum@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

The mods at memes@lemmy.ml didn't appreciate this post being popular and deleted it.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

Not to be "that guy" but lemmygrad is not about national socialism. They are but jobs that will do Olympic level mental gymnastics routines to defend anything and everything Russia or China does, but that doesn't make then Nazis, "just" on the same moral level as Nazis.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

They're tankies. Pure and simple. Sick of people calling them socialists, they aren't even communists. They're delusional anti-western China/Russia good, tankies.

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 60 points 1 year ago
[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your service.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 58 points 1 year ago

They're don't believe in socialism, they believe in authoritarianism. Therefore, they will defend any ancillary ethos.

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[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 year ago

The mods on lemmy.ml are a bunch of sensitive bitches. I once made a meme criticizing the lack of concrete rules... It got deleted

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[-] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

I can still see the ml one but if it’s here…

I don’t understand, is this supposed to say that grad is nazis? They’re very explicit about not allowing nazis and adjacent stuff.

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

To be honest we don't have a real name for them. They say they support the tenets of national socialism, deride capitalism, engage in liberalism, and hate the working class.

Call them what you will. Nazi, neo-nazi, neo-neo-nazi, neo-bolshevik, I don't know. In any case it's all different flavours of fascism.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Tankies" that's the word for Nazis with a Russian coat of paint.

Edit: Lmao the downvotes. I just gave an objective description of the term OP is looking for. I'm a hardcore socialist myself and if you feel like the term "Tankie" is insulting you, then MAYBE you have an issue.

[-] byroon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Tankie originally meant people who supported the Soviet Union's military action in Hungary and Czechoslovakia in the 50s and 60s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hesitate to call them tankies because they don't follow the same ideals. These people deride 'the libs' but engage in liberalism, calling themselves lgbtq friendly, then they call themselves communist but engage in materialism, they call themselves socialist but agree with authoritarianism.

I don't know what to call them besides fascist, but fascist is so non-specific when dealing with these groups that it doesn't help for identification. We actually need a new name for this group of fascists.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

They're CCP or maybe Kremlin operatives organizing shills, LLMs, and useful idiots to spread propaganda.

That's why it's hard to say what they are. They aren't actually socialists, they're happy to support both extremes in order to increase division in their group opponents.

[-] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I’ve never seen a grad say they support the tenets of national socialism or that they hate the working class. Can you show me?

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

No, they've been defederated.

[-] DudeDudenson 11 points 1 year ago
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[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I've had enough bouts with them. They don't believe people can be racist against white people, so any slurs or derogatory insults are totally okay. They also hate social Democrats - call them colonialists. That they want all the benefits of socialism without having to give up any of their illgotten gains.

Soooo, they just expect people to fully make the jump over to pure socialism/communism, no expectations of gradual change, and think hating on whitey is totes cool.

Their most vocal are essentially hindering the growth the greater collective with this bullshit, and if they ever want to see change in their lifetimes, then need to be realistic about it.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

Sure they disallow nazis, but they do exactly what nazis tend to do; alienate, dehumanize and propagandize.

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[-] Nacktmull@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

~~national socialism~~ authoritarian communism

FIFY

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I filter that whole server. It's a ridiculous amount of propaganda.

Users need the power to block servers.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

Users also need the ability to block replies on specific comments/posts. Say anything that goes against their group think and you'll get a ton of replies

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[-] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 18 points 1 year ago

average .ml behavior lol

[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Response from Lemmy.world “Do you have a second to remove my boot from your ass?"

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have the time. I mean, it's gotta be a pretty short conversation because there are no benefits.

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[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

Can someone tell me what specifically got Lemmygrad.ml defederated? Was there a particular post or community or a pattern of behavior?

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pattern of behaviour that the Lemmygrad.ml mods both allowed and participated in. Many of the Lemmygrad communities had already been defederated before this point due to moderation issues.

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[-] jcdenton@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago
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