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This is a complete reimagining of the Open Book Project, but the original mission remains:

As a society, we need an open source device for reading. Books are among the most important documents of our culture, yet the most popular and widespread devices we have for reading are closed objects, operating as small moving parts in a set of giant closed platforms whose owners' interests are not always aligned with readers'.

The Open Book aims to be a simple device that anyone can build for themselves. The Open Book should be comprehensible: the reader should be able to look at it and understand, at least in broad strokes, how it works. It should be extensible, so that a reader with different needs can write code and add accessories that make the book work for them. It should be global, supporting readers of books in all the languages of the world. Most of all, it should be open, so that anyone can take this design as a starting point and use it to build a better book.

Check out the promo video as well:
https://youtu.be/vFD9V8Hh7Yg

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 146 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

When they say build it yourself, they mean it:

  • 3D print case
  • Solder PCB
  • Compile your own firmware

For those interested, base price to build this might start at $85 based on one estimate linked from the resource.

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

DIY is like that. If you look up how to make a birdhouse they will tell you you need a saw, a hammer, nails, drill, paintbrush and something to measure with. Having a 3d printer and a soldering iron nowadays is pretty low entry, you can get into it cheaper that buying the saw, hammer and drill for the birdhouse. You don't have to buy the bambulab printer and the weller / hakko iron. You can print this case on an ender 3 you found in the dumpster. Or pay 10 bucks for someone and they will print it for you. On the other hand you will have a device you can infinitely repair unlike the kindles that are kicking the dust every few year for everyone.

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[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Is that $85 for all parts?

Calculate the extra cost if someone doesn't own a 3D printer (or doesn't have access to one) or soldering gear.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago

Right! I believe that assumes you already have necessary tools, and it certainly can't take into account the cost of your time or the cost of mistakes along the way.

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[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 94 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For the people commenting about prices and comparing it to kindle:

Unfortunately, open source hardware is in its infancy, and faces severe barriers of entry, but projects like this one are really nice in order to further develop the concept and make working prototypes, proving its viability.

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't understand, it seems perfectly reasonable - people are just so used to these products being sold at a loss or at cost and subsidised by huge companies.

I would happily pay extra to not be tied to a massive corporation.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 2 years ago

And if we think about it, it would only cost more at first, because open hardware would last longer and be repairable, costing much less in the long run.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, products like a Kindle or Kobo e-reader are sold to be paired with the company's e-book market. It makes sense for them economically I kind of view it as a win-win because I use it both for their books and for other reading material.

[–] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ideally, how would open source hardware look like for you? I mean that as in after it has achieved something akin to mainstream adoption.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is a great question. I don't believe it can reach the point of any person simply being able to create their own hardware, unless we're talking about an utopic future with multimaterial 3d printing in small scale, but I can see small businesses being able to manufacture custom open source hardware on demand, based on open standards. For me, the ideal scenario would be something like going into an open hardware service shop and asking for a device with your requirements, and they creating it for you, or repairing/upgrading yours.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like with skating, many shops can provide you with wheels, decks, gear. Amazon can sell their one-piece e-books at loss, but eventually it can turn to modular open design where nothing is irreplaceable. It's a matter of demand. If there could be a good project and something like a big org or a government programm funding it, it would end well. Like, supplying troubled communities with an e-reader? If only there wouldn't be DRM fuckery, it's golden.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It doesn't seem super utopic to think a 3d printer could make a pcb, dispense solder paste, pick and place, and heat it to solder it.

Making the ICs themselves on the other hand...

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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Rakuten Kobo is a good alternative to Amazon Kindle. I can just drag and drop books, no internet connectivity necessary, no DRM... I have no problems with it at all. Would be cool to be able to load custom firmware, but I do not need to since it already doesn't spy on me and doesn't force DRM (3rd party book imports).

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Have you installed nickelmenu and koreader? Brings the experience up a couple of levels software side.

[–] biscuit@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Koreader blasted my "aging" 1st Gen H2O into space with all the speed and features it added.

  • Faster page turning
  • Wallabag support
  • Most of all: SFTP transfer from my phone

It's wild.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I just want a digital notebook that doesn't need my phone and doesn't cost $300 to amazon

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

There's slowly starting to be more options for this. The reMarkable devices seem pretty good, but they're a little pricey (though, I'm pretty sure they're not owned by Amazon, so it might technically fit your requirement).

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I'm likely being an ass, but I'd argue that the most popular and widespread devices we have for reading books are probably still books.

[–] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's true. Counterpoint: if you move places a lot (let's say if you happen to belong to a generation of people who will never be able to afford a place - which is a huge amount of people), your library needs to fit into a small tablet sized reader. Can store 5000 books, I do not have the means to move that amount of books every time my landlord decides to make my rent more unaffordable. An ereader fits in my pocket.

[–] uint32@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You could also ise a library. The ones I have used are free or almost free

[–] folkrav@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

If they have what you need, it's indeed a great option. Many of them lend eBooks too, nowadays.

Unfortunately, living in a French speaking area, my local library network doesn't carry a lot of English material, so the selection is very limited. I've found it to be problematic especially for non-fiction, which often doesn't have translations available. Otherwise, libraries are great.

Teenage me would be ashamed to see I barely read any books anymore. I used to read two large novels a week, now it's more like one or two a year...

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[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're not being an ass. But I think it also depends on the book and the person.

For example: cookbooks I prefer a physical book. IT books I prefer in digital format so I can use the find function.

Fiction books I go either way. I prefer digital because they are easier to get but will browse them at the book store.

Either way having an open hardware solution is very welcome so you aren't trapped behind Amazon or Barnes and Noble.

I remember reports of Amazon deleting books off of people's devices.

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Though PocketBook, Tolino, Kobo, Onyx are pretty good at openness or ability to make it open.

Sure, not Open Hardware, but you can at least read what you want with them.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago

I have a Kobo with KOReader installed and Calibre with the DeDRM plugin for managing eBooks and it's pretty great! It'll open just about anything you throw at it and is pretty customizable.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I need something in between this and a Kindle. I don't want to build my own electronics, I just want to buy them from somewhere without sketchy ulterior motives for how they'll use their control over my device.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago

I haven't been keeping tabs on this, but if you appreciate the legacy of pine64 (hardware kill switches on phone, Linux everywhere, etc.) They did release an epaper device:

https://www.pine64.org/2021/08/15/introducing-the-pinenote

I think they're saying it's still developer oriented and not quite user friendly yet though

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately in our late stage capitalism, that wouldn't be a scalable and successful business model, and they'll unfortunately fail as a business.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

I love the hell out of the circuit board labeling. Absolutely wonderful for the hobbyist diyer. Well done. o7

This is such a cool project. I think I might give this a go once I look into the details a little more.

I've been tinkering with ESP32 as a main component of a 50WPC a2dp Bluetooth receiver / amplifier. These SoCs are so incredibly capable. I'm eager to use them for a bunch of other things, now.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Doesn't it make way more sense to just hack Kindle hardware? I remember having a Kindle years ago and torrenting books and just slapping them on there.

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[–] akrot@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Shut up and take my money

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d love one at the right price - but aren’t e-ink screens expensive because only a couple of people make them ?

I think I paid about 30 quid for my first one - but since then kobo and Amazon have tried to force the value up and abandoned basic devices

[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The screen looks like absolute trash sadly. Doesn't even compare to what was available 5 years ago. I wish hobbyists had access to even somewhat modern technology...

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[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

That's very nice

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