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Personally, I spent the Biden years unsuccessfully trying to switch careers and immigrate away from the USA/ Rust Belt. I have had little success in either, but now I understand why it was so hard for "good people" in "Germany" to get out of dodge. Did a lot of food access mutual aid when I had the time and resources, felt pretty impotent though. Having mostly recovered from the two failed attempts to improve my situation, I am trying to figure out what to do next in the New New Neo Shin Age of Monsters we find ourselves in. While the Democrats smized and handed us over "peacefully" for pogroms, territorial grabs, limitless pollution, genocides and domestic terror in the name of their sacred oligarchic democracy, I wondered if there was some other decent way forward for the sane that I was missing.

For those who do not understand the analogy, I am comparing our situation to these:

Beer Hall Putsch

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[-] remington@beehaw.org 11 points 2 days ago

While you are trying to immigrate out of the US you could consider moving to a more Democratic state such as California or Maine.

[-] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah, we have friends who went that route. One obstacle to overcome there is the difference in economy between the Rust Belt and the places you mention. My family is barely middle class in the Rust Belt but because the dollar is much more powerful here, we would take a social ladder tumble elsewhere in the stolen lands. Might be a sacrifice worth making since expatriating entirely has recently (since '23-ish) become so difficult.

[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

Minnesota is Midwestern priced and within driving distance of a border.

[-] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 11 points 2 days ago

Getting to and over the border isn't really the problem. The Canadian Government is currently experiencing a rightward lurch, and a part of that has included severely restricting the ability of middle class and lower to gain visa status. The laws change frequently and generally have gotten worse for us.

I am a big fan of the Twin Cities culturally.

[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

I understand that stance for sure. My border proximity is less for running because of rights restrictions and more based on the necessity for humanitarian aid if things get too spicy. I arrived at a similar conclusion about where Canada, and the rest of the Western world to be frank, is going. We just tend to lead the pack on things like modernizing fascism here in the US.

Leaving Missouri for Minnesota has done loads for the mental health of myself and my family. I cannot recommend this place enough especially if you've mostly only experienced states run by people who think that governments can't actually do things.

[-] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Yes I can imagine leaving the slaver's stolen territory they call "Missouri" was a good move 😜 . Bet you feel significantly less "compromised" now.

[-] remington@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago

My family is barely middle class...

Same for us. That's why we moved to inland (away from the coast) Maine. It's fairly rural but within 45-60 minute drive to medium-sized cities. Most everyone living in our area commutes this for work. However, at home our money goes a long way.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Funny, how you called them "Democratic", not Leftist or ever Progressive. You certainly chose the right word.

The red state where I live is just California-adjacent, with less id-pol distractions from all the anti-youth, anti-protest, anti-immigrant, anti-minority fuckery that is all-to-alive and well there. I'll remind you, also, that the legal overreach within 100 miles of the border means no-one, of any persuasion, is any safer from the government in California, Maine, New York, what-have-you, than my neighbors and I are in what is otherwise an irredeemable hell-scape portion of the country, or so I am told.

Edit: It occurs to me that not everyone knows about the 4th-Amendment-Free zone within 100 miles of the USA's borders, including all coastlines, and encompassing several entire states.

[-] dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win 9 points 2 days ago

While the Democrats smized and handed us over “peacefully” for pogroms, territorial grabs, limitless pollution, genocides and domestic terror in the name of their sacred oligarchic democracy

By Democrats I assume you mean the current Democrats leadership. They handed us over peacefully as most of them won't be affected by the issues that will inevitably be created and didn't want to create a standard of being held liable for their actions. Also is a oligarchic democracy really a democracy?

Personally speaking, going forward all we can do is try to do the best we can in the given situation. Help those around you, as you clearly stated you have, and keep those close to you and your neighbors safe. Those who stayed in Germany and protected those who were under attack by the Nazi party were the bravest and most impactful in my opinion.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

In the sense that you get to choose your oligarch.

[-] dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win 8 points 2 days ago

I didn't vote for Elon, Bezos, or Zuckerberg. I don't even use any of their products. How did I get to choose?

[-] FundMECFS@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago

Hope you are okay, thank you for participating in Mutual Aid.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

This reminds me, I need to get back to having the occassional weekday off to help stock the local foodbank.

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