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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 204 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I can.

I was stuck in a job I hated for over a decade, and not only that, I was the guy on the team doing the shit jobs no one else would do because many of the older, tenured people didn't want to work weekend hours ever.

I remember the slight panic in my boss's eyes when I put in my two weeks, but it wasn't half as sweet as my former coworker's panicking when they realized that they'd have to figure out how to do my job without my help. One even had the balls to say something to me about selfishness.

You see, they'd also declined my offer to train them on the functions I was involved in and the items I created.

Glorious.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 102 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The irony is that, for the job I have now (which I LOVE!) I spent the interview talking about the databases and resources I'd created in the former shit job, and that work got me hired. My new employers treat me like absolute gold.

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[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 21 points 2 years ago

I love it when people expect loyalty's benefits without paying loyalty's price.

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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 195 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"I was just informed you weren't on the morning stand up call this morning" implies that this person wasn't there either.

[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's a middle manager whose presence isn't needed in daily stand-ups, as evidenced by the attempted micromanaging. We don't invite those fuckers to stand-ups because they just talk about useless metrics the whole time.

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[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They also may have just not checked to see if everyone was on the call, especially if that meeting has a bunch of people on it.

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[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 188 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I don't know, call me skeptical or whatever, but this feels like one of those "and everyone clapped" kind of stories

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It does seem probably fake, but being able to set boundaries and say no is definitely a major saving grace of freelance work, even if you have strong reasons to be professional about it.

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[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 32 points 2 years ago

It does, and it's old, but it's still a good story.

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[–] lostinasea@lemmy.world 135 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There was a part 2 to this. They told him he wasn't actually fired and to finish the job. He obviously declined

https://twitter.com/BirdRespecter/status/1483897633210974208

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 131 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Here's part 2 for those who don't want to click links.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Appreciate it! I literally clicked on the link and got confused by all the spam comments promoting dick pills.

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fucking awesome lol. Sorry pal, you can’t just “forget I said that” and walk away 🖕

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bosses are too used to having 100% of power in the boss/employee relationship.

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[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 133 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] LoamImprovement@ttrpg.network 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Please call me"

Translation: I want to tear you a new one through a non-written medium so it doesn't get recorded.

"No"

Translation: You have no power here.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 131 points 2 years ago

I worked with a woman when I worked for the federal government who was quite unpleasant. She left and went to work for a major contractor. I was on a call with her when several of her people didn't show up for the call. She was raging and asked me where they were. I told her that I had no idea where her people were. She finally had had enough and demanded that I go find them and get them on the call. I said, "I'm not going to find YOUR people on your call with me, THE CLIENT. I don't work for you anymore, Diane." and hung up on her

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I really wish these were true.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago

I love this person so much. Good god I would pay hundreds of dollars for an intensely realistic VR game where I can just go absolutely apeshit on middle managers for hours every day.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We do what I call a shotgun standup twice a week. But it is done async 99% of the time.

Every Tuesday and Thursday we have 30 minutes that conveniently coincides with opening of the coffee shop in the office (two of us are onsite, six remote) prior to which the team is intended to write three bullets in the meeting chat:

  • Prio one yesterday - and outcome
  • Prio one today
  • Any blockers discovered for either of those

If nobody posts a blocker, then we get 30 minutes on the calendar where nobody from outside our team can schedule anything. And the onsite folks get the freshest coffee before everyone else gets down there.

If there is a blocker; the person who called it out and the most experienced person in dealing with that type of blocker will join the call, as will anyone interested in the outcome. Once the blocker is resolved, the solution is put into the same meeting chat.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I understood most of those words, and still have very little idea of what is going on. Something to do with coffee?

I have no idea what a prio is, or a blocker in this context.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago

Haha, fair enough. I was just describing one way that 'standups' can be less annoying.

Prio = Priority. As in which task we were primarily working on. Blocker = Some lack of resources, skills, budget, policy, or infrastructure, that is blocking someone from completing a task.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where I am a contractor we have successfully petitioned to delay a "morning standups" until 1:30 p.m. - Which is a much better time to have it because it gives everyone time to A actually wake up, and be there, and B let's me actually read emails.

So many times things don't get covered in the morning stand up because no one's read their emails yet, and then you have to have another meeting at about 11:00 in order to discuss the contents of the email.

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[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Ha ha ha ha.

However, I guess in that position I would still be more cautious with wording. No need to burn bridges to make a point.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 76 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Depending on the work and the contract, it may be the company burning a bridge. Specialized labour can be both difficult and expensive to find.

[–] shifty51@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot of contractors (good ones) know how to play the game. You can get away with a lot when the companies vertically integrated sales app that only they can fix goes belly up. Saw this before where an easily replaceable manager goes up against a long time contractor (ya know, with a contract) and leadership gets to decide how to resolve the situation....

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I've been in similar situations. It boils down to "You hired contractors to do this work because you don't have the skills internally." I cancelled a customer's quarterly release because they didn't hand over their requirements doc by the due date (after 2 months of prodding). The customer got really nasty with me. Got a call from my own VP after a few hours. He started to chew me out for not "working with them". I showed him the dozens of emails and several meetings I had with them being clear about their responsibilities and timelines. He just said "Oh... I'll talk to them." The call with the customer's PM the next day was hilarious. After he had chewed me out in front of 100+ of his people, he had to fall on his sword and take responsibility for messing up their release since it was his responsibility to manage their requirements and get them to me.

I know nobody cares, but it feels good to get that story out!

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[–] Muhr@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"You really need an attitude adjustment"... 😂

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 years ago

Typical “manager”. Everyone show up to these useless meetings that don’t get work done or you can’t work here 🙃

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I need my life to be like this.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (7 children)

That guy probably doesn't have healthcare. Also, I think our boy here probably got fired anyway. If there's one thing a tin pot dictator absolutely can never permit, it's someone else escalating a situation without a response. If you have to have obedience at all times, that means you always have to be the one escalating.

You can use it against them, of course. People will escalate even to the point that it gets them fired, as long as they didn't have to back down.

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