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[-] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago

I am in the US but I am also worried about this! If they EU pass this bill , it will change everything. Please fellow Europeans contact your representatives and don't allow this to pass.

[-] excral@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with e2e encryption is not letting the good guys have e2e encryption! (or something like that)

The topic of freedom vs security is as old as statesmanship and philosophy, and most would agree that at least some freedoms must be given up to achieve an appropriate amount of safety. The problem however comes with human psychology: while by most metrics we are at record levels safety in these modern times, this doesn't reflect into the human perception - it just becomes the new baseline. If this wasn't the case, there wouldn't even be a debate to give up the fundamental freedom of privacy just to provide whatever sliver of extra security this might possibly yield.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think this comment really sums up the issues too. They try to play it off as “we’re not breaking e2e encryption”, but the requirements really has way too many unanswered questions.

https://lemmy.world/comment/4523832

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Real tired of tech illiterate dinosaurs legislating things like this that they really don’t seem to understand (at best… at worst the implications are grim)

[-] toastus@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Ylva Johansson knows what she is doing.

She is bought and paid for, the way she ignores victims of abuse while claiming to speak on their behalf should tell everything.
She uses microtargeted ads and ignores civil organisations trying to argue in good faith, all while having employees that also directly work for lobby organizations.

Protecting children is not her goal, if it were she would not try to push only one specific measure down Europes throat while ignoring all the stuff that actually helps.
She isn't interested in deleting CSAM faster or supporting survivors, all she cares about is destroying fundamental rights of all EU citizens with her disgusting spy proposal.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah just about any time you hear someone screaming "think of the children" as a justification for something they're pushing, they're full of shit. Funny thing is these people often oppose other policies that actually do help children and families.

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

When they are pushing a BS like this without a reason, I assume they want to let autocrats spy on journalists. That's about the only thing this achieves.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

You mean autocratic governments such as Germany, Greece, the Netherlands and Spain?

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yup. They still have their own corrupt spying on journalists and politicians in the opposition. Then there's a scandal when it comes to the limelight, it gets a bunch of press coverage and then there's nothing done about it. Maybe some court case that gets archived. This would make it easier.

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