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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doubtful, since it's both open source and you can run it locally. This seems more like a smear piece.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This article is about the app, which does not run the model locally. Why would you doubt that a Chinese app which openly claims they send your data to China, actually does so?

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 20 points 1 month ago

Yes, I’m going to be lectured on privacy by people who are still on twitter.

[–] Azenis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I trust DeepSeek Open Source if it allows me to copy and review it. I don't trust ~~Open~~AI like ChatGPT.

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Did they become american company?

Well, at least models are downloadable.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Ok, so they'll ban it under that guise to appease US companys, same as TikTok. I really didn't care about TikTok since it's all brain rot to me but this might actually be a tool I'll use if it's as efficient as they say.

Good thing I can run it locally, I guess.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Assuming that DeepSeek really is logging keystrokes (they provided no evidence: who were they quoting?), that is unfortunately not uncommon. As shown by their TikTok pearl clutching, corporate media regularly goes for maximalist cold war fearmongering.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

(they provided no evidence: who were they quoting?)

https://platform.deepseek.com/downloads/DeepSeek%20Privacy%20Policy.html

Ctrl-F "rhythm"

I've noticed that this "there is no proof!" or "where's the evidence?" all of a sudden has become popular. You have people saying it even when they're talking about a very specific statement of a fact that's very specifically and easily verifiable.

that is unfortunately not uncommon

Completely true. A lot of web sites monitor everything you do on them, and can play it back for anyone who's curious about optimizing the UX or for any other less innocent reason. Generally I think there's not much specific in their privacy policy about it when they do. It's not surprising that this one is also doing that, accompanied by really a pretty minor line in their privacy policy to go along with it, I completely agree with you here.

As shown by their TikTok pearl clutching, corporate media regularly goes for maximalist cold war fearmongering.

Personally, I wish the corporate media would pearl-clutch a little bit more about how explicitly malicious to our interests our computing devices have become. "Everyone does it, so it's not a big deal after all" is a common take to have, but it's the exact opposite of the one that I personally have on it.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

“Everyone does it, so it’s not a big deal after all” is a common take to have, but it’s the exact opposite of the one that I personally have on it.

That’s not my take, and I agree with you.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DeepSeek's privacy policy raises concerns about a U.S. foreign adversary's ability to access U.S. user data. Users are familiar with the massive amounts of data U.S. tech companies collect, but China's cybersecurity laws make it much easier for the government to demand data from its tech companies. Additionally, DeepSeek users have reported instances of censorship, when it comes to criticizing the Chinese government or asking about Tiananmen Square.

Users have been shown that both governments are untrustworthy so what the fuck are we supposed to do?

Am I supposed to not read this article as panic? I know this is Mashable but the media overall is no longer unbiased and now there’s gonna be more gremlins to watch for in pro-US corpo AI propaganda and media ownership having stakes in AI.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Well, only one of those governments can actually do anything to me. Hint: it's the one I live under

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[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah and ChatGPT doesn’t

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

no sh*t! now tell me, not that it's correct, but what does the chinese intelligence apparatus can do to me vs. what the u.s. intelligence apparatus (which has been collecting intelligence about me since i'm alive) can do to me?

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

As a queer woman in the US, I currently care infinitely more what the US gov and companies track about me than what China does.

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[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago
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