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Of course he's going to say that, but somehow this is the first I've heard that Fede Álvarez is directing an Alien movie. It's hard to be optimistic about a new Alien announcement lately, but I'm hoping this gets a treatment similar to Dan Trachtenberg's Prey. It's also a Hulu release so we'll see.

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[-] _ed@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

The bars pretty low right now.

[-] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gee, I hope it has more androids fingering and blowing and a bunch of scientists doing REALLY stupid shit.

Edit: the article may as well have just said "Ridley Scott swears it will be a hoot and a holler this time and definitely isn't going to be fucking stupid again" because of course he is going to praise it.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago

I know the franchise has been on a downhill, but I really loved Dan Trachtenberg's Prey and felt that it breathed life into the Predator as a menace once more. Maybe all Alien needs is a nice, smaller budget, more classically focused sci-fi horror film to revitalize the franchise. I don't know if Fede is necessarily the prime choice, Dan at least had the excellent 10 Cloverfield Lane under their chops, but I think giving relatively new directors tired franchises is great.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] TheQuietCroc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I watched all of the Predator series except for "The Predator" before watching "Prey" and "Prey" captures everything that made "Predator" amazing!

[-] canthidium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This was exactly my thinking as well. And I'm cautiously optimistic that Fede may take Alien back to its horror roots.

I don’t know if Fede is necessarily the prime choice, Dan at least had the excellent 10 Cloverfield Lane under their chops, but I think giving relatively new directors tired franchises is great.

Not sure what you mean here. Fede has 3 feature films under his belt already, one being the Evil Dead reboot. Dan only had 1 film before making Prey. Fede will also have around twice as many years of experience as Dan did when he made Prey. Fede's first feature was a decade ago, not exactly new.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's fair, he's certainly been making films for awhile. I didn't really think too much of the Evil Dead remake, it was fine but Sam Reimi casts a wide shadow. I saw Don't Breathe as well, and found the finale to be more yuck than spook. I don't think either have been a breakout hit in the way 10 Cloverfield Lane was, but you're certainly right about experience.

[-] canthidium@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don’t think either have been a breakout hit in the way 10 Cloverfield Lane was, but you’re certainly right about experience.

I dunno if you're just letting your preferred movies cloud what you consider success but while the Evil Dead remake didn't do too well, Don't Breathe made $157M worldwide, compared to 10 Cloverfield Lane's $110M. Evil Dead did worse, but not by much ($97M). None of them have been these runaway successes.

Look, I absolutely love Dan Trachtenberg and for more than even directing, and I think his movies blow Fede's out of the water, but this picture you're painting of 10CL being this breakout hit, especially compared to Fede's movies are just not supported by facts. Not trying to bust your balls, but I believe it's important to form opinions based on evidence and not just feeling.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net -1 points 1 year ago

It's an artistic opinion, it absolutely doesn't need to be informed by evidence. Feeling is the whole point of art. I can feel like a director is lesser than another based upon my experiences with their previous work. My opinion is not fact, I'm sure there's people out there who really like Fede's work and feel differently. Trying to use objective measures like profit margins to prove a piece of art as superior to another is missing the point entirely.

[-] canthidium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what? You're the one that said Fede's films weren't as successful as 10 Cloverfield Lane.

I don’t think either have been a breakout hit in the way 10 Cloverfield Lane was

I'm wholly agreed that you can have a subjective artistic opionion, but you described it as a breakout hit, which is what you say when a movie is financially successful. A "breakout" also assumes acceptance by the masses, or at least more than not, which is not at all what a subjective or artistic opinion would entail. I could maybe go with it if you said cult hit, but breakout means something else entirely.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? I'm not really aware of recent alien entries, have they been bad?

[-] b000urns@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Imo, no. I've enjoyed all of them to varying degrees. Are they flawed? Yes. But certainly not bad. But when the first two films were as good as they were, some people will just never be happy.

[-] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Prometheus made me angry at everything and everyone. There was such an interesting story there and it just seemed like every character did the wrong thing. Then the movie ended on what felt like a starting point of something incredible.

...and then Covenant comes out and just throws the entire Prometheus story in the trash and gives us a generic monster movie with yet another blue-balls ending that will never be resolved.

We'll never get a complete story of Prometheus or find out what happens after Covenant.

"Flawed" is an understatement.

[-] b000urns@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Both Prometheus and Covenant do have poor quite third acts unfortunately, and killing Shaw was pretty lame I agree. But I have still watched them both a few times and there is some good stuff in there

[-] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Personally this is how I view Terminator flicks. Those fist two just destroy anything that comes after no matter how good it may be on its own.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yea, this is probably it.

I think the latter movies are actually too packed with lore, to the point it's easy to lose the plot.

But there is a great yt channel, kroft talks about movies, Kroft Talks About Movies

that goes through the scripts, action sequences frame by frame, costume and design, what seems like designed inconsistencies in the set to hint at a consistent alien universe lore and taxonomy, It's a very impressive analysis channel that has made me appreciate the both Prometheus and covenant much more.

[-] Patariki@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

It's more like great ideas, poor execution. But i also think if a movieseries has 1 or 2 great entries, the other films in the series are judged more harshly even if they are still ok, just not great

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