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[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately not Open Source: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE

I'll keep using NewPipe. Their software seems neat, I'll happly pay for it, but no way I'll do if there is licence like that.

Edit: They say the licence is only temporary. Let's keep an eye which one they'll choose later.

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago

Louis explains the license in the video. You can fork it and modify it, but if you fill it up with ads, spyware, malware etc., they fill fuck you.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's their goal. They have good intentions. But it also means no commercial use.

You can't do "Hey, can you add this feature to this app, I'll pay you" or "Here is much improved version you can buy from me" or "We give you paid support and help for this software for your company". Eventually all improvements bounce back to original creators anyway, see: vital paid Wordpress theme ecosystem, most of them being GPL licenced.

With project getting bigger such restriction can be almost as bad as with propietary app. Like, imagine Linux kernel but only with Linus Torvalds having right to sell computers with it or offer any services making money.

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[-] Skelectus@suppo.fi 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I sympathise with his reasoning for the license but still, that sucks.

I think I'll try it anyway, though. It's trying to solve a real issue.

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[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 44 points 1 year ago

Better revanced = NewPipe

No algorithms, no Google tracking

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

User experience Newpipe is absolute trash

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[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

I personally find LibreTube even better, since it syncs with your Piped account.

[-] signs23@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

But you cant cast videos to SmartTube with it. So i think Revanced has the better versatility.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'd rather not give all my details for multiple sites to one site...regardless of who's doing it.

[-] potato@lemmy.basedcount.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well actually, your login info never goes to them at all. You log into the sites directly in a webview and it uses the cookie to sync your subs and recommendations locally on your device.

[-] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

You took the words out of my mouth. I don't even know who this guy is really, I've seen some of his videos, but having access to all of your account stuff is... nah

A 300MB apk file? It is on Google Play. No F(L)OSS license. Other apps by the same developer (futo) seem to contain no trackers. Probably nothing to worry about, but how many video platforms does the average person use? I look at YT and a small handful of peertube instances.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

Other apps by the same developer (futo) seem to contain no trackers

FUTO is an organisation that wholly sponsors developers to make source-available, privacy respecting apps. They do other stuff too, but mainly this.

Like Shark Tank or Dragons Den, but for developers

[-] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago
[-] limerod@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

You are trying to download the universal app that contains multi archs libraries. Try to download a specific arch for your device like arm v7 or arm v8. That's half the size. The Play Store build is even more optimized at 41mb.

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Y'all are ignoring what this actually is - an app for EVERY video platform. Also, restrictive license is fine as long as the source code is available. Rossman explains this is to keep people from just forking and making scam versions of the app like NewPipe sees.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

A lot of the people complaining about the license don't get this. Also doubly surprised at those saying they won't use it because the license doesn't allow them to redistribute the app with malware, or charge money for it 🤦‍♂️

I'm also completely baffled at the amount of people here who have never heard of Louis Rossmann... literally the dude behind Right to Repair

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

saying they won't use it because the license doesn't allow them to redistribute the app with malware, or charge money for it

They won't use it because the licence creates an inbalance of power, so the creator of the app have more control than the actual user. An app/program is just an set of instructions how to do something.

Why not charge for it? If you just copied and not make anything new noone is going to give you money anyway, while taking something and selling after improvements is literally how all buissness always worked. Maybe except mining or haunting.

As for malware, I bet creator of malware won't be suddenly stopped by a licence text.

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[-] jellyfish@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

The app needs two things: YouTube SponsorBlock, and the ability to tag creators and filter by tag/interest. I'm really hopeful they add those two things, and I'd be a convert.

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it ^^

[-] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it

It could hardly get better than SmartTubeNext.

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[-] Gamey@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

I will keep a eye on it but till the license changes I will stick with my tried and true Newpipe and Libretube apps. Both of those are "improved revanced" to me already but the idea of multiple sources is a cool one, not new but certainly cool and I haven't seen Nebula in other attempts but I just wish people could agree on a addon standard to implement services for various of those apps and media centers at once!

[-] signs23@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Can you cast videos to SmartTube/TV?

That's the thing im missing from those apps and it seems its not possible.

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[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Brand new alpha video player app already has background play, Floatplane devs in shambles

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

And if it ever gains much popularity, Youtube will find ways to break its ability to source videos from their platform.

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[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Love the aggregation idea! Gonna check back onto it after some months, until then I'm sticking with good ol' Revanced.

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Something about Louis just strikes me as extremely untrustworthy. I'm not sure what it is, but it's definitely there.

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

everything I've ever seen about the guy is legit. he works for consumer rights, if you want untrustworthy look at Apple.

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

New York accent? I've occasionally watched his videos for years, and he seems to be a decent guy. He may be an asshole IRL for all I know, but generally supports stuff like right to repair, privacy, ad-blockers, etc. He's a business owner, so he's pro-business biased when consumers aren't being completely shafted. He's YouTuber, so he likely has narcissistic tendencies.

[-] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

Met him IRL. Super nice, but he's got a hard edge which might put people off.

[-] alldreadme@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He might come off as edgy but honestly he's one of the few people I trust online. Dude did amaizing stuff with right to repair stuff too.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use inotia00's version of ReVanced, ReVanced Extended. It adds way more options for fine tuning

[-] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Neat idea. I'm going to watch how this develops but I don't see it ever becoming much of a thing until there is iOS support. I'm not an iPhone user. Just realistic.

[-] Gamey@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Almost no third party frontend supports iOS because of their absolutely shitty sideloading limitations and they still work great...

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