Queensland opposition backflips on support for state's Path to Treaty (www.abc.net.au)

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[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Right. So this whole referendum was treated as a strategic opportunity to stick it the various labor party Govts across the country, right? Now with the No voters established, they’re thinking there’s a base on which to build some sort of anti-woke quiet battlers labor are out of touch platform into the next round of elections.

Honestly, I think Albo kinda fell for it. The strange silence from Albo and the fed govt at the moment reveals that they know they’re in a bit of a moment right now.

[-] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 12 points 11 months ago

That's the problem with our two party system, when one is in opposition they're not thinking about how they can do any good, they're just thinking about how to get back on the other side. Politics shouldn't be a career choice, it should be about choosing to stand up for what you believe in to make some positive change

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This entire thing was started under Malcom Turnbull, and Labor supported it from day one. The two major parties agree on most things, including this until LNP backflipped after the referendum had been called.

(Well, technically it dates back to about 1933... but there have been several failed attempts over the last hundred years with this latest one dating back to 2015 when LNP established a "Referendum Council" with the goal of adding an "indigenous voice" to the constitution)

[-] surreptitiouswalk@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago

There was a podcast episode, I think from Democracy Sausage, that talked about how historically referendum no campaigning parties actually do poorly in the subsequent general election since they lean in to absolutely insane arguments during the campaign, which gets them the referendum win, but the loss in the general election. I hope that happens here.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Interesting! I had seen similar discussion about Dutton specifically, where the teal seat results in the referendum are an obvious indicator.

[-] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 13 points 11 months ago

He claims that it will create division, by not supporting it he is creating the division. If both parties support it there's no mainstream voice for those against it, marginalising them. The Liberals were really good at convincing people to vote no, I wonder if they could ever use that capability to support something good for once

[-] aubertlone@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

We suffer these same problems in the US.

[-] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

I'd say that's where our politicians draw inspiration from unfortunately

[-] aubertlone@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm terribly sorry.

Speaking as someone who is very left-leaning, I was thrilled to hear that Australia finally voted in a more liberal government.

I truly hope they're able to keep the majority.

[-] surreptitiouswalk@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago

I thought voting no was supposed to end the division?

[-] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 6 points 11 months ago

I'm surprised they even supported it to begin with. I mean it's the qld lnp...

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

maybe they should have had a look at that yes/no vote map posted here the other day. sure, most of the Yes was in NT, but quite a lot of crossover into FNQ aswell

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

It's worth noting that that map was by polling place, which means the population was not equal on a per-dot basis.

And when you look at it across larger populations, there's actually even more of a yes vote in parts of SEQ than there was in FNQ, purely because the population of (yes-voting) educated city-dwellers is larger than the population of (yes-voting) Indigenous Australians. So divisions like Brisbane, Griffith, and Ryan, as well as parts of Lilley (including the polling place I worked at) voted majority Yes, and represent a greater number of total people than those yes-voting polling places.

I'm not trying to make any value-judgment here, fwiw. Just pointing out some statistics.

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

no that's fair, thanks for the clarification

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

Nice one “progressive No” supporters you have really shit the bed here. By opposing Voice because you wanted treaty you gave the hard Nos and racist cover. Made the indigenous outlook look like it was split and have made treaty much less likely and harder to achieve than ever.

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago

i really dont want to just shit on people who thought they were doing the right thing, but i really have to question why people didnt see this coming

[-] autotldr 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Five months after LNP MPs voted in favour of the laws to set up a First Nations Treaty Institute and a truth-telling and healing inquiry, leader David Crisafulli declared it was "not the right way forward for Queensland".

"When the LNP originally agreed to enabling legislation for the Path to Treaty we did so in good faith as a genuine effort to promote better outcomes for Indigenous Australians," he said in a statement seen by the ABC.

Just hours earlier, her minister Mark Bailey called the LNP's decision a "naked grab for popularity", and that the government would continue the "treaty process".

"We write on behalf of Queensland's 17 Indigenous Shires and Regional Councils to express our extreme hurt and disappointment at your announcement today of your decision to withdraw your support for Path to Treaty," the letter stated.

The special inquiry — set to run for at least three years — would air injustices and investigate the impacts of colonisation on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

At the time, Mr Crisafulli described the bill as a "genuine opportunity for our state to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians" and one he believed "Queensland should embrace wholeheartedly".

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