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[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Right. So this whole referendum was treated as a strategic opportunity to stick it the various labor party Govts across the country, right? Now with the No voters established, they’re thinking there’s a base on which to build some sort of anti-woke quiet battlers labor are out of touch platform into the next round of elections.

Honestly, I think Albo kinda fell for it. The strange silence from Albo and the fed govt at the moment reveals that they know they’re in a bit of a moment right now.

[-] surreptitiouswalk@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

There was a podcast episode, I think from Democracy Sausage, that talked about how historically referendum no campaigning parties actually do poorly in the subsequent general election since they lean in to absolutely insane arguments during the campaign, which gets them the referendum win, but the loss in the general election. I hope that happens here.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interesting! I had seen similar discussion about Dutton specifically, where the teal seat results in the referendum are an obvious indicator.

[-] surreptitiouswalk@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I thought voting no was supposed to end the division?

[-] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised they even supported it to begin with. I mean it's the qld lnp...

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

maybe they should have had a look at that yes/no vote map posted here the other day. sure, most of the Yes was in NT, but quite a lot of crossover into FNQ aswell

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

It's worth noting that that map was by polling place, which means the population was not equal on a per-dot basis.

And when you look at it across larger populations, there's actually even more of a yes vote in parts of SEQ than there was in FNQ, purely because the population of (yes-voting) educated city-dwellers is larger than the population of (yes-voting) Indigenous Australians. So divisions like Brisbane, Griffith, and Ryan, as well as parts of Lilley (including the polling place I worked at) voted majority Yes, and represent a greater number of total people than those yes-voting polling places.

I'm not trying to make any value-judgment here, fwiw. Just pointing out some statistics.

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

no that's fair, thanks for the clarification

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Nice one “progressive No” supporters you have really shit the bed here. By opposing Voice because you wanted treaty you gave the hard Nos and racist cover. Made the indigenous outlook look like it was split and have made treaty much less likely and harder to achieve than ever.

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

i really dont want to just shit on people who thought they were doing the right thing, but i really have to question why people didnt see this coming

[-] autotldr 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Five months after LNP MPs voted in favour of the laws to set up a First Nations Treaty Institute and a truth-telling and healing inquiry, leader David Crisafulli declared it was "not the right way forward for Queensland".

"When the LNP originally agreed to enabling legislation for the Path to Treaty we did so in good faith as a genuine effort to promote better outcomes for Indigenous Australians," he said in a statement seen by the ABC.

Just hours earlier, her minister Mark Bailey called the LNP's decision a "naked grab for popularity", and that the government would continue the "treaty process".

"We write on behalf of Queensland's 17 Indigenous Shires and Regional Councils to express our extreme hurt and disappointment at your announcement today of your decision to withdraw your support for Path to Treaty," the letter stated.

The special inquiry — set to run for at least three years — would air injustices and investigate the impacts of colonisation on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

At the time, Mr Crisafulli described the bill as a "genuine opportunity for our state to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians" and one he believed "Queensland should embrace wholeheartedly".


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