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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yes please. Sick of the double standard. Can't buy flavoured nicotine anymore but can still buy sickeningly flavoured liquor.

[–] boobies@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's called flavored moonshine, and it's art

[–] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's poison, quite literally. State sponsored leathal posion. But it makes money and it's legal, so it's very cool.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Making it illegal won't solve any problems.

[–] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't say they should make it illegal. But stip being hypocrits about it. They still need studies to legalize marijuana, because there isn't enough data for it to be save and jada jada. Okay, but we have more than enough data that shows just how bad and dangerous both alcohol and cigarettes are.

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[–] jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 month ago (36 children)

Ban all advertising for alcohol, too, please

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You! This woman! Sex! You in a tuxedo fucking this woman!

[–] beuvons@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 month ago

Drunk as fuck!

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[–] CastorSulMush@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

I have no problem with that. We should be aware of the risks involved with our vices.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Maybe work on making life less shitty so people don't drink more?

[–] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure the WHO is working on that.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Got nuts, but if you're worried about people drinking to much work on making it easier to get by as working class. The shorter lifespan is just less getting crushed by the weight of my living expenses.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Surely shaming people and making them feel bad for their choices will work this time, not just cause more animosity in the world. People with drinking problems usually do so to escape something, to bad we can fix those underlying issues.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 month ago

We should be actively warning about and discouraging the consumption of demerit goods. Alcohol, cigarettes, vapes, SSBs, ultra processed food all completely destroy the health of communities all around the world. Not just in the States, but also in both developed and developing countries. We've seen study after study after study that these do nothing but make us addicted to slop that shortens our lifespan and makes us unhappy.

But the organization that is offering this advice cannot even act in the 3rd largest country in the world by population because of """misinformation""" from covid.

WHO basically fully prevented the Ebola outbreak in Nigeria, and it did not affect my parents. If WHO didn't act, I probably wouldn't be alive right now. To think that people genuinely think that leaving it is good goes against every line of thinking I have used in my entire life.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can we do all petroleum products too?

this product is causing mass extinction of an estimated X thousand species

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Yes please. It will kill a lot more people than cigarettes or alcohol.

[–] iriyan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (10 children)

You don't have a choice on the matter, so why waste bandwidth with empty proposals? Consumer tendencies and ideology is an illusion to keep movements away from threatening economic interests of the industrial/banking world. Change can never come from consumer modification.

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[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] iz_ok@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The alcohol lobby is pretty strong in the US. Good thing we dropped out of WHO. Now we can poison ourselves in peace.

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[–] sebb@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow! Finally! 🎉🎉 It's astonishing that it took so many decades. We knew, we always knew that alcohol causes cancer. Now we also know that the risk is significant from any amount. And of course, it's not just cancer.

Those labels, they really work. Like, the society to big extend quit smoking thanks to those labels.

Policies curbing smoking weren't popular at the time, people criticized them for being too much of an inconvenience and ineffective at the same time. But they really worked and our society became better and healthier because of them. Funny, how watching the debate about alcohol now, reading people's comment here, you can actually relive this experience now just years later. When people say "they should focus on X instead", and things like that, that's a form of denialism

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[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Labels need to be on all food, too, in the US of A. All of our food is cancerous.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

California tried that with their prop 65 warnings on everything and it just made people ignore all the label warnings instead.

So no, we should only target the worst offenders.

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Isn't this already common knowledge? No one is drinking alcohol because they think it's good for you.

People: drink alcohol to help them survive being exploited under capitalism

WHO: "best I can do is tell you that you're going to die sooner"

Also, I don't know if anyone's researched this, but I'm 99% sure the stress chemicals your body generates from being a wage slave and living paycheck to paycheck your entire life are far more carcinogenic than alcohol. Maybe that should come with a label too.

[–] sebb@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The facts are alcohol doesn't help anyone to survive shit. We know that it's the opposite, it makes life of people that consume it more miserable.

It instead accumulates together with the stress you experience within your life. It adds more stress, not removes it. Cancer is just one thing, but alcohol is very disrupting to your endocrine (hormones) system, mental health.

What you're doing is a form of denialism. That denialism comes precisely from what those labels are addressing. You're being constantly exposed to the image of alcohol as something to enjoy, a pleasure, relief. It's constantly reinforced by movies, TV shows, media, advertisements.

It's not about knowledge. It's about exposure. If you're constantly exposed to an image of alcohol as a positive thing in your life then you will deny it's impact despite the facts, science, and knowledge

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

There were a bunch of lies published by alcohol industry-backed groups about how a glass of red wine is good for your heart and shit. It probably would be helpful to bust those shitty myths.

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