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[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 149 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

For context, as a writer at The Atlantic described it:

The negotiators displayed mainly incompetence, as well as cringeworthy servility to their master in the White House. Trump’s part, though, was pure malignity. Shortly after the meeting ended, he criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, lied about the latter’s polling numbers, and said, in a particularly callous remark, that Ukraine had had a seat at the table for three years. How being invaded and having your civilians tortured, raped, and slaughtered counts as a seat at the table is beyond understanding.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not beyond understanding. It's corruption and treason. Putin is now POTUS when it comes to Ukraine, and NATO apparently

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Putin stand behind the man that stands in front of the president of the USA. Elon first, then Putin, then Dump.

What a democracy, the jewel of the free (market) world.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon is the governor. Putin is the emperor. Trump is the jester.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Jesters are the ones that tell the truth to the king without fear of execution. Trump couldn't be a jester if he tried. He can't joke or jape, he has nothing but hate in his heart.

Edit: I forgot to add that he is pathologically unable to actually tell the truth, the most important part of the jesters job.

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[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 122 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Putin has repeatedly said that Zelensky is illegitimate and would not negotiate with him. Guess who isn't invited to this particular set of negotiations?

The US has opened negotiations in a strong position by giving one side everything they asked for, to the point that the Russians are trying to figure out what else they can get away with.

When Trump eventually concludes negations it'll be every bit as hollow as Bush standing on an aircraft carrier with a mission accomplished banner behind him. Trump will demand a Noble prize, just like the one Obama got. Peace will not be achieved.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 73 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No, it'll be worse. Trump will use this as a way to remove all sanctions from Russia. He will basically try to reinstate Putin as part of the world economy. After this war of aggression, after all this destruction and death, Trump wants to brush Putin off and put a Halo on it.

Fuck that orange shit stain.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just wait until he starts selling F35s to Russia

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

On the time line we got... Possible

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[–] Mio@feddit.nu 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is not a negotiation if the partners making the deal is not included.

Trump just looking for what he can win from this. He does not care if the deal is fair.

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[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 67 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope the world treats him like the cowardly incontinent little bitch he is

Nobody should fear or respect a single word from this scumbag, call his fucking bluff and that of his spineless and thoughtless followers

Strip them of their lil platform of bullshit

Alienate the US politically and economically until they respond to financial impact of their errors

Drag these dumb cunts through the streets for the world to see, there's no time for this bullshit with these dickless hoes

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t worry about economic alienation, they’re already doing that themselves.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It wasn't even that long ago that the news was reporting on Russian troops massing on the border for a "training exercise". How the fuck do people forget that Russia was undeniably the aggressor in this conflict?

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Only Trump did I think.

The war dates before that. Since 2014 Russia had snipers in dombas.

Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qO42qjShg

[–] jabeez@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Only Trump did I think.

Unfortunately not, have seen quite a few on here just today regurgitating the idea that the Ukraine goaded Russia into invading, so it's like, Ukraine's fault and they started it. Or something. Fuck I hate people, just absolutely no shame, reality is whatever the hell they want it to be I guess.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Well Ukraine shouldn't dress like that. Showing their grain and warm water port for all to see. Everyone knew they were selling their grain to all sorts of people. They should've seen it coming really /s obviously

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How dare she stand out there with her land all open like that

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 34 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

US is negotiating on behalf of Russia while EU is jerking off in the corner like a pathetic cuck.

Ukraine is so fucked and free world is a bunch of limp dick clowns.

Ukraine needs nukes.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 54 points 4 weeks ago (62 children)

Ukraine needs Nato membership.

Fuck Russia and fuck Trumpland for opposing it.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

NATO means nothing because Trump won't back NATO if a NATO country is attacked. Trump wouldn't defend the US even if the US was invaded.

Going forward, Europe needs to assume there's no US. If they can't supply Ukraine, they can't supply NATO.

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Eu membership entails that we defend each other! Its just never was called for bef

But Russia really broke its fangs into Ukraine, the big strong russian warmachine can’t deal with lil poor Ukraine… So its not like our mutual def pack will be called now!

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a negotiation. It's a surrender. Trump surrendered.

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[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

If this is how Trump negotiates, I think we cash see why he been bankrupt so many times

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

his lack of ability to negotiate has been known for decades. The guy is a clown

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

From the view of Putler, this episode of the war is ending, so that the next can start in a few years.... Trump can't plan more than 7 days ahead...

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Donald Trump's entire career seems to be built on a single expression he makes. Essentially the one in that picture. I'm not sure what it is but it conveys some combination of superiority, disdain, and disinterest. It's clearly very successful at establishing dominance, for some reason. Awful man.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"The USA should have never attacked Pearl Harbor and Japan!"

Damn japan did nothing wrong? /j

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

'Stupid' just doesn't encompass his complete and utter ineptitude

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Damned Poles and their radio stations.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's weird seeing memes that can be used by both the left and right with wildly different interpretations

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if things get bad enough, Ukraine would take a shot at Trump. Back to the wall and all.

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