Where did they mention building a bot network?

Source?

Hey could you link that?

Please link a source. I haven’t been able to find anything about this.

Wasn't that never actually followed through though?

lemmygrad, which has federated with lemmyworld for apparently years

Lemmy world is a couple of months old :)

I don't think it makes it unworkable, but I think it warrants a democratic process in this kind of decision making. We as a society should shift away from the mindset of "this is my ball, you just get to play with it" and embrace the idea that forming instances is a form of mutual aid (maybe that's part of why I'm a mod there lol). I think hexbear culture might leak a bit, but I think you're right that it will mostly stay there (also I personally I enjoy their style of humor).

As for moving the community, I would like for it to stay here. We aren't big or active enough to get a migration to occur, and most of the alt instances already have a leftism community. If the admins want to pivot to strictly no politics, then fine I guess

I'm a little hesitant to wade into these waters - I've not been around Lemmy long and know Lemmygrad only by reputation - but I was a r/CTH lurker/commenter before it got quarantined, during the quarantine, and right up until it got banned, and from what I remember, the kinda tankie stuff I've heard that Lemmygrad espouses (however jokingly/sincerely) would get the kind of real pushback on CTH that started slapfights and flamewars. Idk how strong the "those bastards killed Rosa" component is over at Lemmygrad or how effectively they counter tankie bs, mostly because I'm too old and busy to bother with things that don't enrich my life (like arguing online). Consequently, I absolutely understand and sympathize with not wanting to waste whatever precious time someone might have left to live engaging with genocide denial and other authoritarian handwaving.

I think lemmmyworld is probably best seen as a mostly no politics instance

Really? Seems political as fuck to me - this whole place does. Whole thing is predominantly left-wing (minus the odd troll and "enlightened centrist") and in principle I agree with most of it - it does get fucking exhausting, though. Saddening, frustrating. And that's just the content itself, to say nothing about volume: a dozen instances on here, multiplied by a dozen or two explicitly or just practically political communities/mags per instance, and more appearing every day.

The sheer weight of all the politics and (admittedly justified) outrage started getting to me, and I started taking steps to filter it out for mental health reasons. Stewing in this much politics is frankly not good for anyone. Let alone US (and, somewhat, UK) politics. Let alone US politics for those of us who aren't American - and are therefore powerless to do anything about it, but for whom assorted idiocy over there still has very serious repercussions. (And is being eagerly mimicked by assorted wannabe-fascist twats over here, too - see, it's easy to get caught up in.)

So, filtering it out is the obvious solution, right? Unfortunately, that is not easy: in fact there's no good way of doing it at all, because mags end up on the front page even if they're ghost towns where only one guy/bot is posting. In other words, the front page has absolutely no notability requirements. (I'm on kbin if this is less of a problem on other instances/"frontends" or whatever.)

Even the one mag I saw with any kind of decent memes was offputtingly, angrily political half the time. And I'm not doing the "bOtH sIdEs" thing or similar shitheeling - it was mostly LGBTQ stuff, and they have every fucking right to be angry about a lot of things. I am too, for that matter. It's just the quantity, and negativity, and the difficulty in getting a tiny, little fucking break from it to look at some cats in boxes. Even on Reddit it's at least more feasible to block individual subs, because here one "sub" can correspond to several communities on several instances, all of which need to be individually blocked.

I'm jonesing for regex or tag-based community filters like a heroin addict, frankly. My only worry is that there'd only be ich_iel left and I'm not that steady in German.

Federation model works, since people can make their own instance where they set the rules or join an instance that is federated with the instances they want. Like kbin.social I think is federated with lemmygrad and bunch of other places.

I think people are just having trouble getting used to the idea of not needing one central site to deliver everything they want. Don't forget. These aren't corporate run websites running with the goal of monetization, but user run and cost them real world money that they are opening up to users to use for free.

There is some degree of entitlement that isn't necessary to begin with, since if people are that upset they can make their own or join a more networked fediverse instance.

I don't want to get into it right now because it's late for me, but from my perspective it very much appears like it's along ideological lines. I have been scrolling through hexbear for the last couple hours trying to find other signs of bad behavior, and I haven't seen anything that stands out. I figured scrolling through active posts would be a better indicator of what they're like, and it's mostly articles and leftist humor. Our community doesn't have a lot of humor, but there is a lot of articles

We don't have an instance, I'm just a mod of a community here. I was scrolling through threads on hexbear last night for 3 hours and didn't see any rulebreaking behavior.