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[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 83 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems a little inefficient to put all the airports together

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Its really not so bad once you get over the 12 hour drive.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 63 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why do they keep allocating land to wildfires if they're so destructive? /s

[–] troybot@midwest.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the federal wildfire sanctuary established by president William McKinney. While most fire has been domesticated, the remaining feral fire is allowed to burn free in Utah.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I heard that even though the fire was born here, it has illegal flameborn parents so they’re going to put it on a cargo ship with a bunch of pallets and deport it and that’s how we’ll solve the wildfire issue. Saw it on Joe rogan

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 52 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Golf is way too big, imo. No other sport even makes the list here.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 26 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe we can combine it with "wildfires".

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So nice of the 100 largest land owning families to have the same amount of land as the entire urban or rural housing population of the rest of the country. I assume it's to fatten themselves up for the rest of us just like the cows.

When do we get to eat them again?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Shit I'm hungry now I'll start the smoker

[–] ray@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gotta see one of these with parking.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be a subset of "urban commercial", right? Somewhere in the range of half to three-quarters of it?

[–] ECB@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Depends how these are defined. Public parking or on-street parking are likely in a different category, not to mention people's driveways.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that land could be used for more christmas trees

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[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's quite interesting that "rural highways" is one of the categories identified, but not any other sort of improved road. The data source has a base granularity where one square is 250,000 acres (~100,000 hectares), and then additional state data is factored in for increased precision. It supposingly being USDA data, they might primarily care only about those highways used to connect farms to the national markets.

That said, I would be keenly interested in the land used for low-volume, residential streets that support suburban and rural sprawl, in comparison to streets in urban areas. Unlike highways which provides fast connectivity, and unlike dense urban-core streets that produce value by hosting local businesses and serving local residents, suburban streets take up space, intentional break connectivity (ie cul de sacs), and ultimately return very little in value to anyone except to the adjacent homeowners, essentially as extensions of their privately-owned driveways.

It may very well be in USDA's interest to collect data on suburban sprawl, as much of the land taken for such developments was perfectly good, arable land.

[–] littletoolshed@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love this visualization and for some reason your comment made me also wish we had this data correlated with the water usage for each land use category.

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

There'd be a square or two which just say "Nestlé" lol

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 17 points 3 weeks ago

"Wildfires" is a surprisingly large area. I wonder what the 2025 area for it is.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago
[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have certainly heard of Weyerhauser, but had no idea they were that big. They're the only 'individual' owner shown. The land-owning families is odd as I'm sure it overlaps a lot with pasture and private timberland.

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[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

And people will still say that the meat/dairy industry aren't a plague

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would love to flip the railroad usage and cow pasture usage.

Also, mfs drinking too much corn syrup.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember, not all land is the same. Some is too dry to grow human food. Some too wet. There are also other things that land is either too or not enough.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I bet we could still multiply output by a decent number by replacing meat production with directly edible crops, if there was a need for it

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

It us wild that there is not a need. Distribution is (or was) the issue. Very sad humans refuse to feed others.

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Where's the amounts used strictly for cars?

[–] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

The black lines used for borders could be that. I'm not saying it is, just that it might be close to the amount used by roads other than rural highways.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 8 points 3 weeks ago

Man that guy Urban needs so many houses... What does he even do with them all?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

So, if most people are going vegan, there would be much more space for other stuff, yes?

[–] RecipeForHate1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Get rid of livestock

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Can we put the 100 largest landowning families in Florida, then saw it off from the rest of the country?

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[–] str82L@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Can't figure out why the 100 largest landowning families aren't using their land for any of the other reasons. Surely some of them are having it farmed for them too?

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

OIL. There's a LOT of land that might be considered cow/grazing but won't really grow anything worth it. See West Texas.

[–] Move_to_mars@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Swamps don't make good farms, but some people try to farm in FL, it's just inefficient and heavily pollutes or eliminates wetlands

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Do we not eat any of the cows?

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago

I expect a substantial portion of that cow pasture/range land is dry grasslands and shrub steppe out west. It's rough terrain and not good for much else. A lot of it doesn't even have cows on it most of the time.

[–] Phytobus@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago

It simply takes a loooot of food to produce 1kg of beef

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vegans and ecologists have been talking about this exact issue for a while now

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

literally decades. lots of talk around the conditions that bring new pandemics too.

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[–] Rokin@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Very interesting! Now do one for EU, please.

[–] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Food we eat is sepperate from cow pastures...

Nice!

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

How nice for the Reed family/Green Diamond to be split into 'private family owned timberland' and 'corporate timberland'.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 3 weeks ago

and somebody owns every square inch of it.

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

This graph is confusing because there are state lines drawn underneath, but it’s not saying by state.

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