Well if it isn't the consequences of his own actions.
this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2025
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Not really, tbh. He's pretty clearly just doing as much damage as he possibly can. This whole "Oooh whoopsie, we did a bad, does anyone want their job back?" shit is pure show to give himself some plausible deniability to keep the guillotines at bay.
If you look at what's happening through the lens of his goal being malice, and ignore the "ooooops!" pony show, what you see is a man who's hamstrung an entire nation with literally zero consequences.
I wonder if he regrets this one though. If it becomes dangerous to fly he’d have to travel on the ground like a peasant
He'd sooner take the oligarch route and privatize the FAA, fill it with his own loyalists, then give his flights priority wherever he goes, including whatever private aviation business (e.g. FedEx clone) he wants to push.
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Honestly, this one's not even completely his own fault. Standard bureaucratic ossification has been fucking up ATC staffing for years now. The pay is low, the qualifications are steep, and the responsibility and stress is insane. Why would someone do that? And so, people don't. And, on top of them, management from both the business and political sides simply doesn't give a fuck about safety or morale.
The levels of traffic were just recently increased in that DC airspace where the plane hit the helicopter, and at the time, a bunch of qualified people were trying to raise the alarm that some bad shit was going to happen if they stuffed more aircraft into an already overcrowded area. No one in a position to make any of the decisions cared, and they did it anyway. That all happened before Trump and Elmo came into the picture.
Of course, it is true that their own actions have produced some additional consequences now. They've fired a bunch more people and demotivated all the existing or prospective ones pretty much as much as it is possible to do. And, as much as the existing systems are aging and in need of some modernization, it's absolutely guaranteed that whatever Musk does to "improve" them will make them even worse. All I'm saying is that he didn't entirely create the bad situation he is now about to amplify tenfold.
100%. There was a shortage of traffic controllers before the firings even began, this only exacerbated a bad situation.
Someone at all familiar with the status of ATC staffing who isn't a complete idiot would clearly not have exacerbated this situation.
I'm a developer - I'd even classify myself as pretty far to the "move fast and break things" end of the spectrum. But I'm a senior developer because I ask questions and understand things and write tests to confirm that understanding and prove a new system correct before fucking breaking them. Once that's done I've totally got a sledgehammer in hand and am wildly swinging it around to rebuild it cleaner but, critically, we do this in a development environment.
This fucker is hot fixing production without a fucking clue how anything works. He's in a little fucking bubble where the only opinions allowed in are "Elon is a genius" and he's drinking the fucking Kool-aid. I've seen executives like that and the only correct response is to jump fucking ship.
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"There is a shortage"
ah damn i love that language. reminds me of the boss that abused my mother back when she was still in employment. "there is a shortage, you need to come over on your day off, otherwise we can't handle the workload". how about employing more people? no? maybe because you can't find another fool who will do the work with these bad working conditions?
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- Claim a federal agency is inefficient
- Fire employees and defund agency
- Agency performs worse than before
- Point finger at the agency showing how it is incompetent
- Move to privatize agency
- $$$$$$$
US law mandates retirement at 56 for Air Traffic Controllers due to the high stress and fast-paced multi-tasking nature of the job
It's considered one of the most mentally challenging jobs there are.
I'll just leave that scene from Breakind Bad here. If i was in the US i would not enter any flights for the foreseeable future, unless it is the flight to permanently leave.
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How about you just increase the pay and benefits you’re offering? if you love the efficiencies of the free market so much why don’t you fucking act like it
The free market dictates that in a shortage, the cost of the goods or services must rise to meet the equilibrium of supply and demand. Anything else is surely incredibly inefficient.
This is so easy to fix. Just ask the remaining ATCs to put in 30 more hours per week. If there is a safety law which needs to be amended to make this happen, just amend it. Remove all the rules and safeguards. We should do it like the Tesla factories.
Look. More air accidents will happen. People should be ready to sacrifice themselves. It's that easy.
So easy to fix.
PS: /s for some of you who may need it..
We also need to brace ourselves for hardship. I mean Elon won't be facing monetary hardships but you will. So brace for that.
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Surprise Surprise Surprise (Gomer Pyle voice)
Just what the fuck did you think was gonna happen Elonia? Fucking idiot...
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Yo, air traffic controllers still at work: if y'all have ever considered going on strike, now's the time.
Easier to quit; last time ATCs went on strike Reagan just fired them all
Would they still be able to replace the fired workers as quickly as they did in 1980?
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"No OnE wAnTs To WoRk AnYmOrE" - guy firing a bunch of people without cause.
I used to work for Amazon in a division I didn't feel grimey for. Spent over 7 years of my life in that division, doing great things and recurringly got top performer review status and was even awarded role model on top of that on several occasions.
Then they laid me off in 2023, after my latest review of "top performer" & award of "role model".
About 2 weeks ago a recruiter reached out to me for a role in AWS and I responded with, "Amazon shouldn't have laid me, a top performer and role model, off if they'd like me to work for them."
ATCs should give this response to Musk.
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Yeah I'm sure they're just RARING to work for the most publicly toxic boss (that isn't even a boss) in the world...
As a guy who has to travel for work. I hope that these guys tell him to pound fucking sand
Really highlights how stupid Republicans and Musk really is and how his companies thrived despite his leadership not because.
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I was told there was no such thing as a shortage in a free market, why won't the executive branch embrace free market economics?
Musk is discovering he can't hire foreign workers to replace people at will. That some federal workers perform highly specialized and high stress tasks that you can't fix with his typical knuckle dragging tactics.
Pay more wages, the way of a free market is supply and demand
There's no such thing as a labor shortage.
Oh he needs those useless federal workers? Most of those people remember what reagan did and feel no loyalty at all to the republican party.
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The shortage is his own damn fault. I wouldn’t want to work any government job right now.
Fucking clown show
But what happened to move fast and break things?
They’re broken. We’re onto step 2
- Move fast and break things
- ???
- Profit
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"Look, it's nobody's fault, and we don't know how this happened, but for unforeseeable reasons we have a shortage."
Narrator: It was forseen, they do know how it happened, and it was his fault.
"I clear cut the forest and now there is a shortage of trees. Woe is me."
Would love to see the rest of them strike and bring the entire air travel/transport network to its knees.
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Most of them retire at or near the age they're legally required to retire, they cannot come back. He's either trying to ask for the people he fired to come back without looking like the moron most people see him for or too dumb to realize even that.
He is easily the worst person there is to ask for it.
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