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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are still saying it is "normalizing".

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Yeah, right.

“Normalizing” = we dgaf what happens to everyone’s finances because we’re completely insulated from the effects.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Where AMD, Nvidia and Intel!?

[–] Calcifer@eviltoast.org 122 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The stock market is generally more of a "rich people's feelings" graph - very few Americans relatively are invested in any meaningful way, most if they are do so through a 401k or similar. That said, what "the market" hates most is uncertainty - and there's quite a lot of reasons to be uncertain at the moment between tariff threats and mass layoffs (not to mention geopolitical tensions).

Importantly though (and this is just a personal opinion) I think many stocks on the market are way overvalued. Executives and investors have used every trick in the book to "make a line go up", which means they aren't really operating on any business foundation designed for longevity or to withstand swings in the market. There's bubbles lurking in a lot of sectors. I'd guess at least some of this downwards momentum will be a market correction for some of these issues.

As always though, it's the folks invested through pensions and 401ks that have the most to lose relatively. The big players have probably already taken out their cash and are just waiting to see what they can buy up in a crash.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I watched a comedian on YouTube make a great point: When DeepSeek was announced the markets lost a trillion dollars in value and almost no one noticed except like twelve people.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's such a great comedian. He only gets a few minutes a week on The Daily Show, but it doesn't really do much just to show how smart and funny the dude is. I love that he frequently posts full 30 or 40 minute sets on YouTube covering current events.

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[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

most if they are do so through a 401k or similar.

It's pretty easy to swap what's being held in your 401k to Canadian/EU portfolios

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 95 points 1 week ago

He did say he would be bringing prices down on day 1, just didn't clarify he meant stock prices, not grocery prices.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As of 1:00 PM EST, it's down 12% on the day and dropping 🥰

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

As of 3:00 PM EST, it's down over 15% on the day and in a bit of a further swing 😍

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago
[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

You love to see it.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago
[–] altec@midwest.social 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Cgers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Moved mine to 100% international allocations on the 4th, up like 3% since then, highly recommend

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Shit, great idea... I should've realized that sooner.

[–] Coffeegrinder@feddit.nl 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Buyeu and buycanada are gaining momentum?

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with the sentiment but I work in IT and yearn for when we will get rid of Microsoft, Amazon, and the tech giants.

My mother won't buy anything American at the grocery store but uses Amazon and Facebook every day.

My coworkers won't buy American products but use Windows, Teams, and Office every day.

I may be using Linux, open source software, and avoid American tech when possible, but I still use Google and Gmail.

At some point we may want to (or should) also extend that boycott to software and tech services. Have our governments, institutions and people not dependent on American corporations. It can only be good for our sovereignty anyway.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I asked in another thread about the possibility and likelihood of a sort of "digital embargo" where the states would order American companies like steam to halt service.

Forget not being able to get oranges or having to eat frozen veggies part of the year, this is somewhere that I can't really change my buying habits and move on (my steam library can't leave steam in this example)

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know nothing the stock market does is ever good for actual people, and any direction the line goes will be used as an excuse to commit atrocities against the poor, but I do feel a little thrill seeing it go down as the contrivances of 'wealth' used to gaslight us into not taking the full value of our labor at least superficially collapse.

[–] DC_Fencer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ok just to clarify your first point: 60% of Americans have either a 401k or Roth IRA. The stock market is not the be all and end all economic factor but it does affect a large swath of Americans.

[–] Cgers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

You can allocate your funds to international investments only

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

they 'have one', I have had friends who found out an employer created one for them with pitiful amounts of money in them, or they got paid partially in them. nobody I know genuinely believes they're going to retire. very few people I know believe in a far-future. not far as in 'i read the foundation novels and damn, that shit blew my mind because im the most basic bitch possible' i mean 'far future' as in 'I might die older than my grandparents'

that's not to disregard what you're saying completely, of course. it will fuck a lot of people up. im sure. but line-go-up hurts just as many, if not more, people.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

The FO phase of FAFO.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

All I see here is a bunch of companies that were massively over valued in the first place.

I sleep.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

One can hope for it to be Consequences of their actions.

[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Big Tech always amplifies gyrations in the market. Hence, every single one of these stocks (except Microsoft, I just checked) is still beating the S&P 500 over 6 months, even with these drops. And Microsoft is still way up in the long term.

Look, I want meteors to hit them all, but huge swings are the norm for these now. Hotter stocks trade a lot like crypto these days.

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[–] Glaedr304@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] medusadeluxe@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

You better move. You better dance.

[–] buwho@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

whos cashing all this out? and are they paying taxes on it? like how does it work? can you just move your assets/ close out on positions and immediately shove them into some compounding interest account but still capture all the profit, with no capital gain tax?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Depends which country you live in. But in the US you’d still pay capital gains tax over it I reckon. Since it applies at the moment of the sale of an asset. Unless it’s a IRA or 401k then you pay income tax at withdrawal. Of course you pay the taxes end of year. So you can still put it in a savings account and receive interest on all the profits before you have to pay tax

If those stocks were held less than a year you pay income tax over all your short term trades total realized gains end of the year.

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[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

It’s stocks, innit?

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