'They own what happens next': Enraged AOC slams Senate Dems over 'inexplicable abdication' : usa

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

inexplicable? this is what they do. this is what they've done as long as I've been aware.

has this woman ever met a senate dem? this should shock exactly nobody. we all knew this was who they were. that's why nobody voted for them-the fascists would do a coup, and they would just hand over power, so what would the point have been?

[+] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I’m waiting for the day that AOC is president and Lemmy starts painting her like Obama. Never good enough…

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[+] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -16 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I have been thinking about this and im no longer sure this was a bad move. With what trump is doing now in tearing apart the government. It can be fought in the courts. With a shutdown he would have cart blanche to furlough anyone he wants and keep paying his insiders and the courts could not say boo because shutdown. Further he could say all bad effects are because of the democrats because shutdown. At least now the courts can fight it and the bad effects are all from his poor decisions.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If a shutdown is such a win for trump, why weren't republicans voting against cloture?

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

because they would look incredibly stupid. it was their bill. also in win win scenarios it does not really matter.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

republicans do not care how stupid they look.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, remember when Moscow Mitch filibustered his own bill because Dems were in favor of it? Good times!

[–] chaos@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if the right move was "give up and do what the Republicans want," they still did a terrible job. House Democrats held the line and stuck their necks out, only to get blindsided, and Schumer shouldn't have signaled that there'd be a fight right before he caved. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and only a handful of people in the party seem to even be trying to do anything.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 day ago

I can agree with the second part but the first part is just a phrasing to make it sound bad. I mean the move to use the republicans blunder against them sounds a lot better. I don't really know what internal talk went with the democrats but I would not be surprised if it was somewhat like what we see online but with the membership with some saying we can't go with anything they do on principle and others saying wait a second doing that will be overall worse.

[+] helloworld55@lemm.ee -7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm glad someone is saying this.

While I understand people don't want to give Trump any wins, choosing the shut the government down is the wrong hill to die on. Given the chaos that DOGE has caused, and the executive branch throwing around their power completely unchecked, shutting down the government would plunge america into chaos.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump had a plan to frame the government shutdown as "government inefficiency" and use it to grab much more executive power.

[–] theluckyone@discuss.online 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let the Republicans take the blame for bring it all down.

Oh wait, you're right. The Democrats would never blame them either.

[–] helloworld55@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago

I mean, does it really matter?

Even if the Democrats are blaming Trump for the shutdown, what do you think would be Trump's next move after Congress refuses to fund the government?

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I honestly feel like they did it on purpose because they know the cuts are gonna hurt rural states more, which sucks if you're not heartless. But hey buyer beware.

[+] ChadMcTruth@lemmy.world -15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

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[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're telling on yourself. "She uses words I don't know".

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All words are made up

[+] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Why is she surprised? These Democrats are the people AOC endorsed.

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