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What European email services do you use?
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I have switched from Google's Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼
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- only web app
- needs client app
What's up with that misleading information as if there's something missing? This just means you can use any mail application you want with the standard mail protocols IMAP and POP3. If a mail provider is offering an app themselves that's fine but that's nothing a mail provider HAS to offer. What's much more important is how they handle you data, how good they filter out spam, how big you mailbox can be, cost, sustainability etc. But the app is the least important thing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Tutanota uses a proprietary protocol to communicate with email clients, so an app is needed. Perhaps "needs client app" means that.
That could be since I don't know Tutanota. But an email provider who doesn't support IMAP/SMTP sounds kinda weird to me. But mailbox.org doesn't need their client. They support normal protocols: https://kb.mailbox.org/de/privat/e-mail/e-mail-konfiguration/
It's not that they don't support IMAP or SMTP. They do, but only sending or receiving external emails. All operations from the client go through internet in their proprietary protocol to their server, then industrial standard protocols with other parties.
ProtonMail. Despite the boss likely being a conservative dogebag, their company is headquartered in Switzerland. That is the first big thing I check for my privacy and banking services. It is harder for a service to be poisoned by Yarvin's Cabal if the service's HQ is located in a democratic country, especially one famed for their privacy.
Proton is fairly far in delivering a polished unified experience in commonly used internet services, including mail + calendar, password manager, file/photo storage and vpn services.
Yes but the CEO publicly endorses Trump. I prefer Gmail over that mess.
Why is Kmail in there?
Kmail is a client: it can't host.
the whole suit is called ksuite: https://ksuite.infomaniak.com/
they have an app to sync and it's free (20G)
Thanks! I just signed up.
Because it's not the Kmail you think of, but kmail from them: https://www.infomaniak.com/
Just a quick notice about proton here. While it is great, if you tend to forget your passwords be carefull beacuse you will lose all your mail history when you recover. I would reccomend something more casual for casual users.
If you use Proton and forget your passwords, it's okay because the Proton CEO openly praised a US president who has a history of breaking privacy laws and is actively antagonizing allies. With that moral compass running Proton, your privacy and security might be compromised at a later date.
Wasnt this just one message on X? Though I understand Everyone's worries. Isn’t Proton a company with a board of directors and a binding mission statement. I am sincerely wondering if the whole thing isn’t blown up too much. For me I am with proton for now and keeping my ear to the ground concerning any developments. But in short Proton is a safe and secure EU based alternative for Gmail right now, wouldn’t you agree?
Proton’s whole mission statement is based around privacy so it would take a big shift in the company to actually start registering and selling data… at least that’s my perspective. I’m curious to see if any more developments will occur concerning their CEO
https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/
Here is his response, he only apologized for using the official brand account. It's wise to look for alternatives, and he should suffer Musk like consequences.
https://mailfence.com/ Belgian, 1Gb
https://www.gmx.com/ German Restrictions: 50MB attachments. Require an alternate email to sign up.
"Needs client app" is a funny way of saying it "supports open protocols as first class citizens".
Yeah, what's up with that? IMAP, SMTP and CardDAV to good for some people or what?
I am using Proton for many years and I can not be happier. They are adding features and new services every month. Fully recommend . If you want to try the email plus you can use my referral: https://pr.tn/ref/W467S6SS1VP0
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