Any bets on when the first flight neither originating in, or ever landing in, the USA gets grounded by jets so they can deport someone on the plane?
I know it makes absolutely no sense, but neither does this timeline.
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Any bets on when the first flight neither originating in, or ever landing in, the USA gets grounded by jets so they can deport someone on the plane?
I know it makes absolutely no sense, but neither does this timeline.
And if the West does sweet fuck-all when Russia and Belarus does it, what do you think they can do when America does it?
I'm a dual citizen (and live in a third country). I wanted to show my wife more of the US museums and parks, as well as having her meet more of my family. It's 100% off the table now. There's zero chance, even for two weeks, I put my wife (who already speaks very little English) in that situation. Also, fuck giving the US any extra money.
So many column inches and yet all the American articles dodge the real issue. Tariffs are bad and threatening the economy has made them a lot of enemies, but that isn’t why Canadians suddenly did a heel turn on our election and are united across provincial, social and political borders in opposition to the US.
It’s because Trump repeatedly threatened our sovereignty, belittled our government and insulted us. We can take jokes on the chin, nobody cares being called maple syrup drinking hosers that live in America’s hat and only care “aboot” hockey.
We care that our existence as a country has been threatened, repeatedly and specifically. It’s hilarious reading American articles deliberately ignore this, when it’s all the Canadian media can talk about.
When your biggest ally can’t even commit to not using military force to invade you or annex you, you fight back. When foreign oligarchs think they can put their finger on the scale in your election, you fight back.
People are fucking pissed & united, in a way I’ve never seen before in this country and if they think we’re just going to lie down they have another thing coming. Put that in a goddamn article.
Also the arrest by ICE on someone with a paperwork error is middle east level BS
Was going to fly to Boston with my sister to see a Laker's game this March, but that's all off the table now. No tickets, no hotel, no flights; we'll use the money for a different game, maybe in Toronto. I'm not stepping foot in the US if I can help it, in solidarity with many other Canadians. Just how it is right now.
As a rule of thumb I don’t travel to countries run by dictatorships and have no fair judicial systems .
I'm one of the 36%. With ICE, the US being more hostile in general, and questionable aviation safety, I've changed my destination from California to Australia.
Gday, and hope you enjoy!
Our beaches are much better anyway :)
Thank you! 😃 Any beaches you recommend?
Seeing the news this isn't even a matter of boycott but safety. Ice is not very discerning
The tariffs are one thing, the 51st state threats are another, I would say more major thing.
And then you have the horror stories of the German tourist and that woman from BC applying for a visa renewal at the border. Neither have been convicted of committing a criminal or civil offence yet (the first one just flimsily accused), and instead of being just turned away or even given the option to buy an expensive return ticket on the spot, Customs and Border Patrol see it fit to just stuff them into prison-like accommodations with no firm timelines as to when they get out. Seems cruel and unusual to me, so I can understand why not many Canadians would like to take a chance with that, even if they don't actually do any work, that an officer could get caught up over anything.
Add onto that the new 30 day registry rules means clearly the US doesn't want us around for that long.
Oh geez, those registry rules. We used to make jokes about the Soviet Union: "papers please!" US Xenophobia will end up removing all their freedoms. It'll be about "catching illegal aliens" but the effect will be total internal travel restrictions and tracking for US citizens. I really hope they wake up before it's too late.
I really hope they wake up before it’s too late.
Narrator: They didn't.
In fact, Republicans are making a concerted effort not to wake.
Flying has required a Real ID-based identification for a little while now. Terry stops have enabled cops to stop and identify as long as a cop has "reasonable suspicion".
There's nothing to wake up before anymore. It's been like this for a while... Long before Orange Man took office with terry stops starting in the 60's, and real id being signed by congress in 2005 (though rollout has been slow).
The "registry rules" is just another thing that people skipping out on their visa's will also violate... So I'm not sure what the point of that would be necessarily. But I don't see why anyone would be up and arms about an attempt to track those who are overstaying the country they're in. It seems reasonable to require a check-in for extended visas. The "best" thing it could do is identify those who intend to skip out a few months earlier which I guess could have some value... at the annoyance of creating check-ins for others.
It's all fucked up.
I question if it's even safe for outsiders to go to the Untied States
It's not even safe for Americans to go to the United States at this point.
Highly depends on where. Many states aren't safe for Americans to set foot in, much less foreigners.
I wouldn’t either. When I travel abroad, I always make sure my layovers aren’t on 3rd world soil.
This is it. If you're on American soil, even during a layover, you're bound to American rules of law. There was already a Canadian citizen who was detained in a ICE facility.
And I'm avoiding visiting Canada because I know I won't want to come back.
Any Canadians feel like adopting a middle-aged American manchild?
Serious answer to an unserious question: adopting an adult is legally possible in about half the jurisdictions in Canada, and then most of those jurisdictions require the adoptee to be a citizen or permanent resident. https://adoptingback.com/adopting-back/canada-adult-adoption-law/
Yeah, my parents mentioned maybe visiting the UK next year and asked if I'd want to go, and it's like...I don't think I could bear having to come back here.
Hey, no cutting in line. I was here first.
So anyway, I prefer a family within an hour or two of a ski area. It's not a deal breaker, though. References available upon request.
If I took a drink every time I read a lemmy post about some country hating on the current US, thought to myself "Can't blame em", and kept scrolling, I'd be wasted before I got out of bed.
I spend too much time online and this has probably created a bias, it looks like most people around me don't really care. Yesterday I even stumbled upon some comments on Lemmy who thought BuyFromEU was about European nationalism and not about the shit that is going on in USA.. Sigh. Anyway, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, not good to hate too much, but it seems healthy to trust USA a bit less now. /rant
I think you'd need a swim suit and scuba gear
Just to add another reason: Some famiky members were changing their flights to avoid USA after the FAA cuts and plane crashes. Loosening regulation and cutting staff just makes it more dangerous, so they chose to use airlines under stronger regulations.
I live close to the border, I went to the USA for shopping and vacations 200+ times in 25 years. I went once or twice per month. I have not ben there since October 2024 and doubt I will return.
When doing grocery, like everyone here, I avoid all and every USA things.
Americans fuck around, Americans find out.
This world doesn’t need us. We’ve enjoyed decades of undeserved praise and good will from the world, and it’s inflated our ego enough that we think we’re invincible.
As a non-american, where have you been hearing praise? Outside of the US, the US is mostly considered embarrassing and terrible. I'm thinking it's the internal propaganda of "american exceptionalism" that misguides americans into thinking the world loved them before Trump
It's more been the willingness of other countries to follow our lead on most things for so long. (Soft power) That time is over, and it's not a bad thing.
I have an upcoming trip with a US transfer. We booked it before Trump won and started these shenanigans. We worry that the declining traffic will cancel our direct flight and we'll be left scrambling to find an alternative route. We also worry about US Customs now more than we used to. It would cost us ~$1300 for the two of us to reroute, and we're seriously thinking about it just to reduce our risk.
In unrelated news, most of the lettuce in the store in grown in the USA. We went shopping yesterday and all the Canadian produce was sold out while the US stuff was sort of rotting. Well, we found romaine hearts grown in Mexico, so we bought that. Thanks Mexico-bros.
Thanks Mexico-bros
Mexibro?
Fuck I haven’t been to the US (not even for a stopover) since Trunp 1.0. I can’t imagine when or why I would ever go back.
Oh, right, it's because of the tariffs and not because the US immigration is arresting and torturing people at random at the borders...
Everything is because of the tariffs. Tariffs are all that is happening on the US right now, you don't have to look it up.
Yep. They're definitely not disappearing German and Canadian citizens for basically no reason. They're certainly not putting them in solitary confinement for days on end before shuffling them around the county for months with no way for friends or family to (accurately) track down where they are
Canadians are really showing Trump they mean business! Hope we Europeans will do the same! Kudos to Canada!