So if auto pens mean that the document isn't valid, does that mean the same thing for DocuSign, or other e signatures?
Does this mean that billions of contracts and documents signed this way are null and void?
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Can I get all my taxes back then, because I've been esigning taxes since 2006.
Ok SovCit
What's gone stop him from sending his goons to arrest political opponents? They're at the ignoring the courts step in the process right now.
What’s gone stop him from sending his goons to arrest political opponents?
The fact that his political opponents are already toothless.
Boot licking allies is the term you are looking for.
That's the unfortunate truth; once a court order is not enforced, you are already past the point of no return. One of two things follow, either a new dictatorship, or blood.
Likely, both
Court order not enforced and no reaction from the public. Why would they stop?
FTFY: “Court order not enforced and no reaction from the ~~public~~ elected officials that are meant to represent the public. Why would they stop?”
Dont put your future into other peoples hands. Its your future and rights that are at stake.
I understand your sentiment and it is especially poignant these days, but that is literally the only reason they exist in the first place. If we need to take action (which I agree has now reached that point) their position should be eliminated as they have made themselves redundant.
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Court order not enforced and no reaction from the public.
Er... There have been numerous protests and outrage at GOP townhalls and other places
The public is mostly powerless as long as the regime is willing to point and use firearms. thats their go-to card.
you can bet that the regime is also planning on giving out military equipment for fighting against crowds too, tear gas, firehoses, and microwave / sonic weapons like what was seen in Serbia recentley.
you can bet that the regime is also planning on giving out military equipment for fighting against crowds too, tear gas, firehoses, and microwave / sonic weapons
Hate to break it to you, but our police have been militarized with military gear for decades. During the massive George Floyd protests in 2020, the police used all of those weapons against crowds (except microwave, but they definitely used some type of sonic/sound crowd control weapons).
Learn with the french
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So we are to believe that each J6 felon Trump pardoned was signed by hand in something other than Sharpie?
Also why bother with the investigations, they investigated Biden for 4 years and despite the "overwhelming evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors" they couldn't even name one, let alone provide evidence. This is just Trump trying to get his base focused on something other than how he is screwing them despite their support.
Don't even engage with the "wrong kind of pen" argument. It's a prime example of fascists wasting your time debating words spoken in bad faith to distract you while they round people up in the streets.
Obligatory Sartre quote:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Don’t even engage with the “wrong kind of pen” argument.
It's the equivalent to SovCits arguing that a Court is invalid because the flag has the wrong color fringe on it. The people who spout that nonsense aren't worth the effort or time to engage.
focused on something other
Perhaps how constituents got absolutely hammered by extreme weather, tornados, etc, over the weekend as he simultaneously dismantles weather science funding and aid, while also denying that climate change is an issue. Or possibly deporting legal immigrants, against specific instructions not to, in some real transparent dictator type behavior.
Honestly, at this point, people can deny it all they want but climate change isn't something that "might happen" it's already happening and will continue to happen because we're doing our damnedest to make sure it does. I'm in socal and the climate here is already markedly different from what it was ten years ago.
The honest problem is that the hyper-wealthy just don't go outside or do anything meaningful. They are in climate controlled buildings and vehicles 24/7. They don't cook. They don't feel price fluctuations in goods. Their home(s) are numerous and in the best areas, but even that is moot, as they are rarely at home. They travel and work constantly, and are never subjected to anything but the finest accomodations. Their world is very controlled, and orderly, and pleasant. They literally live in a different reality. They don't get it. And yet, they control the environment us regular people live in/are subjected to. Our struggles are trivia to them. Mere inconveniences. We're just obstacles in their way. Our displeasure is just a "notification" to clear. Whatever they can do to shut us up, or get us off their case, they do that. Right and wrong be damned. The future be damned. By the time it effects them directly and they are forced to deal with consequences, our corpses will be components of massive burning heaps.
Considering how lazy he is I don't know if he wants to set a precedent for all government documents signed with an auto-pin being invalid. Not that precedent has ever mattered for republicans
He is lazy, but he LOVES signing things. He even has special sharpies made so he can sign things better than anyone else.
you think that but look up his signature it's obviously done by a machine like most fuckin people these days
Are they crayons?
No, because he would eat the crayons.
No, of course not. Can't have him getting distracted from advancing his handlers' agendas by handing him a snack, now can we?
That's it Diaper Don, leave yourself no way out by questioning the legality of pardons. True genius at work here.
The only way this goes wrong for him is if he leaves office. He has no intention of allowing that to happen.
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Everybody go on social media and proclaim Trump isn't president. Musk's kid said so
Spoken out loud in the oval office. Sounds official to me!
“The necessary Pardoning Documents were not explained to, or approved by, Biden,” Trump added. “He knew nothing about them..."
Funny enough we could just ask Biden about this, and even given an outright 'yeah, knew, read, and would do it again' Trump would spin up some other excuse to say it was fake, or a clone, or whatever other madness comes to mind.
But in the Conservative Cinematic Universe, Biden is a doddering old fool who is unaware of his surroundings. This is God's Own Truth, and nobody will convince them otherwise.
If you ask Biden about this, on camera, and he responds, they will conclude it must be an AI fake, or possibly a Robot Biden. Then they will freeze-frame on some instance where he is looking in the distance and insist he was sundowning.
Someone blow that orange muppets brains out. Fuck sakes America.
Everyone things he's a hero and would time travel to kill hitler. It seems like they only say that because they know time travel isn't real
Vance might be even worse
What works once might work twice..
I declare bankruptcy!
Hilarious to bemoan autopen when this senile imbecile is signing everything looking like Hammmmmmmy Sammmmmiieeess.
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