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[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I lived in a West Bank settlement for 11 years. Israel's reason for the war is ethnic cleansing and expulsion. They use the public support of the hostages to justify their actions. If you dare push back on their conquest you are called a self hating Jew and a Libtard.

Hamas are not the good guys here either, they played all their cards on October 7th where they demonstrated their cruelty and disrespect for human life. The Israeli military has been trying to match or exceed them ever since.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

Trying to exceed them? Trying? Try again.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hamas are not the good guys here either, they played all their cards on October 7th where they demonstrated their cruelty and disrespect for human life. The Israeli military has been trying to match or exceed them ever since.

Weird how many of the Israeli claims of Oct 7 are either disproven or completely unbacked by any evidence. Beheaded babies? Rape and murder of dozens including noah aragami (who is alive, and released and now is going against Israel, why??? Asked the idiots)

Hamas is an Israeli puppet, they were placed to lead gaza to ensure Palestine can't form into a nation, literal divide and rule. Hamas in gaza, plo/fateh in west bank who are opposing ideologies. I absolutely condemn Oct 7 and can't comprehend why their plan or goal, not only is it cruel to the innocents but surely they knew Gaza would be wiped. Not that Israel is allowed to, just that Israeli propaganda is the strongest on earth

[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Weird how I never mentioned any of the Israeli claims. The facts are they swept through civilian areas killing and kidnapping seems fucked enough for me.

Where the fuck are you getting your propaganda? Noah Argamani? The woman posting pictures with Donald Trump on her socials?

Hamas was thought to be containable by Bibi's government, they funneled cash to them hoping it would keep them complacent. Hamas proved on October 7th that they did not want to be Bibi's "puppet".!

Israel has been working on dividing the Palestinian people for almost as long as Israel has been a state. There were growing pro Palestinian rights movements growing in Israel but Bibi has been leaning hard into Oct 7th to reignite racist fears that Israelis are indoctrinated with their entire life. There are still movements in Israel that are pushing for hostage release and for Palestinian human and civil rights. Israel/Palestine will never be a healthy democracy until all peoples within it segmented borders are given equal civil and human rights.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where the fuck are you getting your propaganda? Noah Argamani? The woman posting pictures with Donald Trump on her socials?

Here’s her socials from earlier. And then speaking at the UN:

"I need to make sure that the world knows that: the deal must go on in full ... completely, in all the stages," she told the Security Council before then describing how a house she was held hostage in was blown up, trapping her in the rubble.

All the stages, ie to end the war and have a lasting peace, not “bring them home now, no matter what”. Nobody is a perfect advocate, but speaking out against the official narrative and continued advocacy for a negotiated exchange is a huge start imo.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Stupid Hamas not handing out flowers to the people locking them into a concentration camp and killing over 33% active military soldiers and only 3% children under 18.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 17 points 2 days ago

We have to start accepting that israel is the modern day nazi state that must be deconstructed.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have been out of the loop on the Israel situation for so long and I feel maybe I should get in the loop. Can somebody educate me on it?

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Israel was funded by Britain after WWII as an ethnostate for Jewish people. This was a win-win, since many Jewish people were tired of persecution and wanted their own country, and most other countries hated Jewish people to some extent and wanted to be rid of them.

They placed it in the region that was the Jewish state of Israel some 2 thousand years ago. Trouble is, there was another country in that place by then: Palestine. Most Palestinians are Muslim and look different from the Jewish people residing in Israel, which is unwelcome to an ethnostate. Ethnostates strive to be ethnically monogamous and don't tolerate different ethnicities well.

Thus, Israel has been trying to get rid of Palestinians to varying extents since. This has indirectly been helped by many of the most powerful western nations, since Israel is their only ally in the middle east and they thus support it economically and in other ways. Tactics have mostly been passive enough to go under the radar of most people in different countries, for example economically depriving the region Palestinians live in, or letting too little food go to that region.

In late 2023, there was a terrorist attack on Israelis by a group called Hamas that identify as Palestian. This let to a full on war between Hamas and Israel. During this, there has been so much evidence of Israeli military targeting civilians and even specifically children that many people all over the world now recognize what Israel is doing to Palestinians as a genocide.

Anti-Israel sentiment is deliberately being painted as anti-Semitic by Israel. Some of it actually does contain some or even a lot of antisemitism, but some is just legitimate critique of an ethnostate and its actions against an unwelcome minority. Calling the latter antisemitism too has two results: the criticism is delegitimised and Israel gets away scots free, and actual antisemitism is on the rise because it feels more normalized now.

I tried to be objective, everyone please feel free to correct, add, or ask anything :) hope this helps OP!

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

There is a pretty good headline summary written 100 years ago:

New York Times 1899: CONFERENCE OF ZIONISTS; Elect Delegates at Their Meeting in Baltimore. WILL COLONIZE PALESTINE

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

israel is isis w unlimited support from the usa

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago

I like Hasan :3

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