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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (10 children)

It never made sense to me how popular discord was to begin with.

[–] u_u@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

It used to be fast and not full of useless bloat like what you see right now. The usual enshittification.

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[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

https://spacebar.chat/ looks like it will eventually be good, it looks like it's in its infancy right now though

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Avoid Revolt as there moderation is questionable

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wym moderation? Aren't you moderating your own server?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is a single instance everyone is on

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ah ok, yeah in that case yes. Only solution to this would be federation. But matrix is nowhere there yet in terms of normie usability.

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[–] Rhaxapopouetl@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 day ago

Alternatives to discord, open source or not:

https://alternativeto.net/software/discord-app/

[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What are your thoughts on xmpp? Recently I have come to like a lot and am pretty active with friends there.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There are people using xmpp? Last time I set up a server and tried using it with Pidgin, I couldn't find a soul that used it

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[–] slomosapien@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Its been a while since I used Revolt, I use element everyday. But I'd prefer something more "third party" too. Revolt was servicable back in 2020, maybe it has gotten better?

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Element/matrix all the way

if you want something that looks like discord there are themes for the clients, there's even commet.chat for a discord like experience (but they haven't added calls yet)

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (10 children)

If you're self hosting, it's Revolt. But the default instance limits you to 20mb or something for files, which is a problem for me, personally.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Revolt is also an annoyance to self host and the apps don’t support self hosted instances without you rebuilding them because the server is hardcoded.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why even give the option then lmao

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

That’s just it, it isn’t an option

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[–] DaveX64@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been tinkering with old BBS software :)

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