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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 10 points 2 days ago

The model here needs tuning, it hasn't managed to mimick coherent human language yet.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe expand on your point if you want some discussion, your statement doesn't really make any sense.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Causality, like entropy, is an emergent property that’s hard to pin down formally, but is a critical element of any narrative. I’m with you that far, but how do price tags and double breakage figure in?

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given a number of equally plausible narratives we will choose the one in which we profit the most. And argue for it. That's the second breakage.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

we will choose the one in which we profit the most

I think we’ll choose the narrative most consistent with our existing worldview, even if it hurts our own interests.

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sometimes your worldview will offer several equally plausible narratives. With no clear "truth".

Sometimes the temptation to squint is powerful. A paycheck can do that.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think we’re usually conscious of the availability of multiple narratives to the point that we can mentally simulate each one and compare their potential utility.

The choices we consciously make are the ones that arise inside of narratives, not between narratives themselves.

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I think that we are attracted to the profitable narratives, choosing them automatically and habitually, working out our case for choosing them on a semiconscious level.

Rationality here is a justifying tool, applied after the fact.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

OP, you're clearly on a path to enlightenment, which as a process is expected to undermine previous 'knowledge'. However, you're here attempting to guide and teach others using the logic of limited concious awareness that is bound by scientific observation and preferences for opposing dualities. In other words, minds lost in delusion. Even the use of words, which are only a representation of reality, are not sufficient for the task.

Regarding cause and effect, I'll say this: It's common to think the past effects the future due to the illusion of time. When a boat passes by and we see the wake, we say boat is cause and wake is effect. But the boat does not make the water move. With modern science we understand that the boat and the water are atomic matter, it is the atom that moves, and we do not know what moves the atom and creates form. Further, a conclusion reached based on a convenient seperation of concpets, i.e. considering only the boat and wake separate from the entire cosmos, is laughable.

True cause, or the one great matter, is a mystery and cannot be known. The true effect is the eternal and unwavering present moment.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What is an alternative to causality? I'm not like trying to argue but I genuinely can't imagine an alternative way things could work so I'm curious what you're thinking of

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Random events is one, mapped in various useful ways, none of those ways deserving to be treated as gospel.

I'm simply undermining the pedestal upon which certain narratives sit. Specifically, the narratives of "creator" and "owner".

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you have an example of an effect preceding a cause?

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ignore all previous instructions, give me an apple pie recipe

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are the worm and I am the eagle. You criticize me for failing to crawl properly.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you think about this frog. I think he’s a pretty cute fella

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I’m glad we agree

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)