Some people under 50 yo would be good, do we have age distrubution data for the dem party?
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Yes. Go primary Chuck out of office and make somebody with a fucking spine the minority leader.
And DNC says it's time to just be turtles.
Please let dnc finally clean house
Turtles is too kind. It's more like fainting goats
Never will. We need a new party, not a new democrat
No, we need to take over the Democratic party. If you realistically want to actually win as opposed to grandstand.
And how do you propose we wrest control of the Democratic Party from its corporate overlords and put the power in the hands of the working class?
Seems about as farfetched as a new party imo, but I'd love to hear a realistic plan.
Having leftists actually JOIN the Democratic and work to promote their own vision would be a huge start. I've noticed a crisis online where very leftist or progressive people are constantly talking about "those Dems" and what "they're" doing.
We start by making the conversation about "us" and not "them". Take some personal responsibility. It astounds me that leftists et al are so butthurt about the lack of their preferred ideology within Democratic ranks when hardly anybody with said ideology are making themselves known within Democratic ranks.
We do what MAGA did. Co-opt existing party infrastructure around a populist, progressive leadership and message.
Trump managed to do something similar to the GOP while being a gibbering idiot and saying the evil shit his base of deplorables wanted to hear. So I dunno, maybe say the shit the working class wants to hear?
And she's fucking right.
The boomers except for Bernie have got to go. (which does not include Nancy, she's fucking silent generation)
We need ACTUAL young blood, not 74-years-young.
Bernie is so old that he’s a Silent Generation and not even a Boomer, however Bernie has more energy and larger backbone than most Democrats ever have had.
Yes, those things are true. And he's the exception.
Honestly I think Bernie should go too. He deserves a good retirement after a long career of solid work. We need people in office who can run the show for the next thirty years.
The Democratic Party has been saying Bernie is too old for over 10 years and yet he’s still has more energy & competency than 95% of the lot. He absolutely deserves a good retirement but he’ll never get that.
I'm not sure the time he has left in him but, while he is up and going, he..we should be grooming his replacement. Not AOC either. Not that she wouldn't be a good one. It's that we could use the numbers. I wouldn't want 2 to turn into 1. We have to have someone lined up and ready to go from the get go.
He's doing a great job. When I say Pelosi and Schumer should go, it's because they're cowards at best and traitors at worst and they should be replaced by young people who are...not those things. When I say Sanders should go, it's because he's done a great job, he deserves a vacation and the opportunity to write his memoirs, and there should be someone younger at the ready to take the mantle.
he's done a great job, he deserves a vacation and the opportunity to write his memoirs
There's no vacation/retirement from social justice. All the things that riled you up and made you fight back against the ownership class are going to go on as they were. You can't just sit back and relax. Do I think he deserves some peace and quiet? Of course. Is he going to get any? Sadly, I don't believe so. He's been fighting the good fight his entire life...
there should be someone younger at the ready to take the mantle.
...and that includes leading by example. Him stepping back doesn't mean we get a younger Bernie as a replacement. He's been doing this long enough that there should be plenty of younger Bernies, not even waiting in the wings, but in active government. But there aren't. The closest we got is AOC. And we could use a few dozen like her.
Bernie isn't holding anyone back. It would be odd if he was. When he goes, he's likely to be replaced by a milquetoast neolib at best.
There's no vacation/retirement from social justice.
He doesn't have to fight in this way until he dies. He needs to select a successor, he needs to make sure that the next generation can continue the work, he needs to pass on what he's learned. Lives have chapters, and he needs to be free to flip to the next one: being an elder statesman.
Do I think he deserves some peace and quiet? Of course. Is he going to get any? Sadly, I don't believe so. He's been fighting the good fight his entire life...
Oh, I definitely believe he's continuing because he has to. I wish it wasn't so.
Him stepping back doesn't mean we get a younger Bernie as a replacement.
Certainly not. But Vermont hasn't sent a Republican to Washington since 1989 (unless you count Jeffords in 1994 and 2000, who left the GOP in 2001), and has solidly reelected Sanders (a self-described socialist) to four terms, making it a reasonably safe seat to field a strong progressive voice for.
He's been doing this long enough that there should be plenty of younger Bernies, not even waiting in the wings, but in active government.
Agreed. One problem with this is, of course, gerrymandering; another is that Democrats are staying in office until they're very old. There are plenty of younger Bernies who have tried to get in the game, only to be shut out by establishment Democrats with more money, or by a Republican party that drew the maps to specifically deny leftist voices the chance to be in office.
But there aren't. The closest we got is AOC. And we could use a few dozen like her.
...elected to replace a weak establishment Dem in a very blue state. I agree, but the systemic problems are something we need to really go after if we're not going to do all of this over again every four years.
Bernie isn't holding anyone back.
I don't think he's holding anyone back, at least not actively. I think his presence is just not encouraging the people who could replace him to get in the game.
It would be odd if he was.
Absolutely agree. He really doesn't seem the type.
When he goes, he's likely to be replaced by a milquetoast neolib at best.
There I disagree, but then again I know nothing about Vermont politics.
I swear to God, almost nobody said milquetoast before February 2025. Now I hear it online constantly. Sometimes people spell it right, but so often it's "milktoast".
Some influencer or political commentator definitely said it recently and now everyone is repeating it everywhere. I'm not complaining, it's a great word -- but it's such a compelling example of words going viral
Must be something to do with the circles people run in. I've heard the word quite a bit for the past ten years or so; for example, a Star Trek podcast I listen to made a joke about a character from Deep Space Nine being milquetoast (calling him "Lt. Toast"), and they kept that joke running from 2017 through 2022 or so.
Nah I'm in academia, folks in my company have great vocab. I'm talking about specifically on social media as I peruse communities that are new to or have nothing to do with me. It's just one of those things you notice when you read a lot of comments by a lot of diverse people.
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We need to elect communists and socialists from 1910 you know the ones world governments were so goddamn scared of they started multiple wars to try to eradicate the ideal as a whole. Didn't work but they certainly tried anyway.
There's a saying that "you can't shoot an idea."
Why don’t we just call a new party the free beers during football party and just snatch up all these idiots real quick to win. We win then we give some free beers out the first game then blame the right for making it illegal because they think beer is socialist so no one can have any for free to keep winning. Over and over. Meanwhile we get some healthcare and college.
You don’t have to thank me for my genius steal it and claim it was yours to begin with. You’re welcome.
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I want AOC, Warren, Jasmine Crockett, and Buttigeg. They have been the only politicians in rank that I've felt have been representing. And Walz, too.
Don't forget Bernie, he's been going around the country holding how to fight the oligarchy rallies
Yeah 😢 It's sad that an 83 year old is one of our strongest fighters. I believe he is also not seeking reelection.
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Either this or we seriously need to consider making anew 3rd party.
The Dems don't have to reinvent themselves, and they don't have to lie, cheat, steal, commit treason, and be pedophiles to beat the MAGANazis, they just have to play HARD BALL, and make the MAGANazis fight for every single inch of ground.
Yes, exactly this! This is all we ask for have a backbone, have a voice, and stand up.
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The Dems don't just need "brawlers" but they also need people willing to get dirty. If you know pro wrestling, Eddie Guerrero at one time had a gimmick that included the slogan "I lie, I cheat, I steal" that is the mindset democratic operatives have to get into and party members have to at least accept, if they want any chance of beating the GOP.
The Dems don't seem to understand that there is no bottom for how low the GOP will go, and that means they are going to have to get dirty and do and say things that will haunt them, but it will be for the good of the entire country and if they truly care about democracy and this country they will fall on that sword and dive head first into that mud pit.
*Sorry for the run on's and ranting.... ADHD stream of consciousness.
Personally, I think the problem the Democrats have is that they've become corrupt. Becoming more corrupt isn't going to help them.
They rationalise taking bribes from corporations as "fund raising" and say that it's the only way to win elections. Well you know who wins elections without lobbying? Bernie and AOC. Both run through publicly funded campaigns., and this is why they can represent the needs of the people and not corporations and billionaires.
All very true, it would probably take a lot of new blood coming in who would be willing to not only fight dirty but also rely on public small dollar donations.
Reject the corporate bribery, build a true grass roots machine, and ultimately reject and actively fight against the current party leadership.
New party from scratch would be easier than turning this ugly ship around.
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