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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno about this one chief; call it Microsoft paranoia.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of the better security modules in the kernel was developed by the NSA.

It’s open source software and Microsoft can’t force it in, the open source model will handle this properly.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Okay well, It wouldn't have been the first code blob in the kernel (looking at you HDMI)

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How about no? The whole proposal looks shady. Where Microsoft says "trust", I do not.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 26 points 1 month ago

Every Microsoft idea is always bad for Linux.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

it's a trap

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh geeze, that format drives me nuts. Is there a tldr?

[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Amigo, it's 5 paragraphs and two of those are a quote.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, there's two different links, the kernel lore one is the one I was complaining about.

[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Oh, I didn't think to check. Figured they were the same. But yeah, looking at it now it looks rather horrible, doesn't it?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago
This adds the Hornet Linux Security Module which provides signature
verification of eBPF programs.
[–] vermaterc@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Can anyone ELI5 why it's bad? Apart from contributior being Microsoft

[–] xtools@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

did we arrive at the second stage of embrace, extend, extinguish?

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, Microsoft would likely sooner fully adopt the Linux kernel tbh.

It aligns with their software/service as a service model.

My bet is you’ll see a “windows 11” compatible user space running on Linux a la WSL ( LSW? ) in the coming decade.

I know Linux engineers who moved to Microsoft generally for this purpose

[–] xtools@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

that's how the "extinguish" phase start - integrate it closely into your own product, so people use yours instead

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago

Very interesting. I'm sure it will find some consumers for this code, in systems that use codesign.