As a very content Keychron enjoyer, I'll just take this space to say there's no reason not to choose one of theirs. Nothing to lose save for bragging rights over premium price and exclusivity :}
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I can second that, got a DE layout keychron and it's very nice.
I agree! Keychrons are very good! I bought one a couple years ago before I properly dived in. I daily a custom built ortho split now but still drop back on my keychron occasionally because it's just a nice experience.
ZSA Voyager is great, but it's ergo so neither ISO nor ANSI.
I'm looking to buy the Voyager and I am boring my wife talking about it while I wait in anticipation. 😆
- Are you satisfied with yours? Any gripes?
- Which color did you get, black/white?
- Any accessories you'd like to recommend?
- Wanna share your config??
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I've got the Ergodox, so my recommendation is entirely off the strength of that product. If I were buying from them today, I'd probably get the Moonlander, but that's because I use my keyboard with my home desktop 99%+ of the time. If you plan to travel, commute, or otherwise use your keyboard in multiple places, I think the low profile keys will be perfect for that.
As for add-ons, there isn't really anything to add for the Voyager. If you're considering the Moonlander, I would be tempted by The Platform. It's a full third of the already hefty price of the keyboard, but it looks like the dream tilt solution. The legs on the Ergodox, which look to be the same legs as on the Voyager, are serviceable, but the interface that keeps them in place can wear out needing replacement, and they can only tilt so much (the Voyager has less I believe, so you can still tilt it but at less esoteric angles). The platform will let you get nearly vertical with each hand if you want, which is kind of the ergonomic dream. Although, tbf, after using my Ergodox for a couple years, I rarely tilt it at all and just use it flat on the desk along with the included wrist/palm supports
Yeah I'll be getting the Voyager, 100%. It looks like the dream for me. Small, portable (I bring my keyboard to and from work every day I go to the office), customizable.
There are some add-ons you can get for the Voyager, like the Shhhocks or whatever they're called; extra sound-dampening pads you place underneath the key caps. And also the tripod mounts.
I think I'll only get the Shhhocks. I think I'll just place my board on the desk with the tilting feet attached. 👍
Thanks for the input!
ISO is an absolute must have, unfortunately.
How come? (Just asking out of pure curiosity; I don't have a follow-up tip or anything.)
I grew up with ISO (Swedish layout) but I now have an ANSI us layout because 1) I am a programmer by trade, and 2) I can touch type. So it's much more convenient for me. The Enter key being a little bit wider on ANSI is helpful IMO.
I'm on the same boat as you, pretty much. I grew up with ISO and moved to ANSI on my 20s. If you own an Happy Hacking Keyboard I'll consider you my long lost brother!
My SO is not a techie person and doesn't particularly benefit from ANSI. She types a lot in portuguese, our native language, and the default ANSI layout has some really bad key placements. The ~
key in particular is in a pretty bad spot considering ã
is used very frequently in our language. No point in getting used to a layout that is inferior for her workflow.
If you own an Happy Hacking Keyboard I'll consider you my long lost brother!
Unfortunately I don't, but we can be brothers regardless 😅
The
~
key in particular is in a pretty bad spot consideringã
is used very frequently in our language. No point in getting used to a layout that is inferior for her workflow.
Ah, I see! What if we told her she could have some tap-dancing customization where she double taps the a key and gets the ã? Even better than standard! 😁
Depending on how willing you are to set things up for her, you might want to take a second look at either the Voyager, or any other QMK-compatible keyboard. It's incredibly flexible firmware that lets you define fully custom layouts. If she's doing a lot of typing, it might be worth the effort to make (and adjust to) a custom layout with quick access to her most used modifiers and symbols.
She stated multiple times that she has no interest in swapping layouts. ISO works for her and she wants to keep using it.
as far as I know Keychron is one of the companies that offers ISO layout.
I got an Monsgeek M1 V5 ISO barebone and I guess that I could convert it to low-profile just buying the proper keycaps
is there a european alternative?
Might wanna keep an eye on Chilkey. Their ND75 comes in ISO, and they recently dropped a low profile version. No idea if they're expanding that range for other layouts, but it's pretty nice.
Edit: Their Discord server is very active if you do want to keep an ear out.
If this was ISO I'd insta buy it! :P Thanks!