Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu.
Forgot gnubuntu
And the best of all... Uwuntu
still the best os/distro of all time is hanah montana os
It's Hannah you unwashed pleb!
Linux users really are like vegetarians/vegans - they want you to join them and when you do, then they judge you for not being vegetarian/vegan enough
Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, CrossFit?
A vegan, a Linux user, and a 'pol sci major' walk into a bar. They are the same person. Oh dear, they won't shut up. There is no god here now. I think my ears have started to bleed. Run...
Tbh, I don't really get the hate that Ubuntu gets.
I mean, I do understand that people don't like some of the decisions made with Ubuntu (e.g. snap), but especially for people who don't use an OS for the sake of using that OS and just want to use their PC to get stuff done, Ubuntu/Kubuntu are quite good.
You have a mostly consistent UI that can do most important configs without touching CLI. Manuals and simple guides are easy to find, even in other languages than English (which is important for quite a big number of people outside the US).
And contrary to some other, smaller distros, Ubuntu isn't run by just 1-2 people and you can trust in it still existing in 10 years. (Obviously, this is true for many other distros, but some quite widly used distros are run just by a tiny team of hobbyists)
I mean, I'd get the reaction if someone claimed they are Linux users because they use Android (though with enough knowledge you can also get a full Linux distro running on Android in chroot).
"Use Snaps"
"No" (installs .deb)
"Fuck you, use Snaps"
(The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box that updates your snaps without asking and every part of this statement was a deliberate planned feature by Canonical)
I mentioned this in the comment you answered to. But as I said, this might be an issue for people that use Linux because they really hate anything that isn't GPL, but 97% of the people on this planet care more about whether something is simple to use than what license it uses, as evidenced by the market share of Windows, Android, Chromebooks and Apple products.
Wouldn't it be better to get some of them to use Ubuntu with snaps than to stay on their proprietary platforms, because packet management sucks and conflicts are basically impossible to solve for someone who's not a software developer?
Linus swore that Bitkeeper wouldn't alter the agreement further, like a mad egotistical movie villain.
Canonical is very clearly funneling their userbase towards a Snap-only environment (something that already exists as an option).
As the sole keyholders, and as a for-profit business, what is the next step?
Is it to maintain a wealth of options, even when that cuts into profit margins? What about when those options are competing products (think Gnome and KDE back in the Unity days)?
These things just do not make sense from a business perspective, and they will not be necessary once their userbase is locked into the Snap walled garden.
As to your point about licenses and market share, default non-options and limited choices aren't compatible with conversations about choice.
The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box
Every part of the snap store running on your computer is open source.
that updates your snaps without asking
If you don't want your snaps auto-updating, turn auto updates off. snap --help
I think they get hate because Canonical is a commercial entity.
I really don't like that sentiment though. Software development isn't for free just because you slap GPL on it. These devs need to be paid somehow if they are supposed to do more than 3h/week.
You can also see the same thing in the Linux kernel. Many Kernel devs are employed by Microsoft, Google, the NSA and many other commercial entities.
Yeah I quit Ubuntu after 12 years but I still recommend it for people trying to change OS ..it's great OS
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Tubuntu, Hubuntu, Dubuntu, Pubuntu, Vuduntu, Jubuntu.
Ubuntu, Ubuntree, Ubunfur, Ubunfi, Ubunsi, Ubunsenn, Ubunnet, Ubu-9, Ubuten, Ubuntulovin, Ubuntwelve
That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about Ubuntu off-shoots to dispute it.
Off the top of my head:
You forgot Red Star OS
Hannah Montana!
Now name 10 distros that aren't based on each other. And yes I'm counting the *buntus as being based on Debian.
If you look at the famous lineage graph there's a fill out there but barely any reinvention of the wheel (not that that's a bad thing).
Arch, Fedora(Red Hat), Debian, Linux from scratch, Suse.
Goddammit!! That's harder than I thought it would be. Then again I'm a relatively new Linux user, I've only used it since 2005. 😋
Edit:
Arh stupid me forgot an obvious one, Gentoo.
Without looking at timeline linked above:
We still have 2 missing...
The bottom 25% of that graph is all non derivative OS, that's still a lot.
Hannah Montana Linux!
Its not what we deserve, but Its all what we need.
Fuck snap. I quit Ubuntu after using it more than any other distro since 6.04. Debian 12 has been awesome.
Ubuntu with KDE = Kubuntu
Ubuntu with LXDE/LXQT = Lubuntu
Ubuntu with XFCE = Xubuntu
Ubuntu with Gnome ... Where is Gubuntu?
It's a silent G
The best jokes make you a little bit angry while also making you laugh
Let's see... Off the top of my head: Debian, Ubuntu, yiffOS, Arch, Gentoo, Red Hat, OpenSUSE, Mint, Fedora, Tiny Linux, Mandriva, CrunchBang, Raspbian.
Also I'm a windows user c:
TIL about yiffOS lmfao
Fedora, Redhat, Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Linux mint, Arch, Suse, Slackware, Centos, Manjaro, Scientific linux, Pinguy os, Sabayon, Linux from scratch, Puppy linux
Do I get a prize?
I use Arch btw
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