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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 week ago (26 children)

ACAB includes the troops. Going to foreign countries to shoot brown kids doesn't make you any less of a bastard than doing it at home.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think any cops have been drafted into police service. They also don't go to jail if they quit their job. And I haven't heard of police recruiters using predatory tactics and targeting disadvantaged groups. The military does, or has done, all of those things to recruit troops.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you chose to go kill and uphold imperialist aggression rather than just go to jail then you are in fact a bastard

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I don’t think any cops have been drafted into police service.

The US (which is what this meme is focusing on) has an all-volunteer force.

They also don’t go to jail if they quit their job. And I haven’t heard of police recruiters using predatory tactics and targeting disadvantaged groups. The military does, or has done, all of those things to recruit troops.

There's plenty of pro-cop propaganda and plenty of people who join the police thinking they're going to do good. I'm sorry but at some point people have to be held accountable for their actions. Any troop that's not a bastard and who's actively trying to leave should understand why I call troops bastards. It was bastards who recruited them, after all, and it's bastards keeping them there.

In any case, people make way too many excuses for these people, and all it does is reinforce the idea that it's ok, which leads to more people falling for that propaganda and those predatory tactics.

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[–] psyop@crazypeople.online 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When's the next war on bud light rainbow cans? 🤡🫡🤡

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why would we celebrate LOSERS and SUCKERS?

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 21 points 1 week ago

The only accurate thing Trump ever said

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[–] Viiksisiippa@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (13 children)

There is absolutely no reason to blindly respect someone just because they’ve “served their country.” We don’t know what they’ve done. We have so many examples of soldiers doing horrible things to civilians around the world that blind respect is simply not warranted.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 35 points 1 week ago (16 children)

People got mad at this one streamer for saying American soldiers deserve PTSD. When you consider that most interventions by the US are not justified or just imperial power plays, and that many soldiers commit war crimes, you realize she has a point.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Every US soldier signed up for killing, they deserve whatever they get.

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

“Protecting freedom” by torturing and bombing people halfway across the world

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (25 children)

This might get a lot of down votes but I want to say I don't think it's fair to blame the soldiers in the field for the choices of the decision makers in the office. Those horrible events were unwanted 'byproducts' of the goal of men with evil plans, they were not veterans going off-book. In other words, these veterans did what was asked of them. I'm not saying they didn't do some very bad things, but they aren't the people that should be 'thanked'.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In German penal law there were discussions on how to treat those that act under orders. Many Germans did act under orders and even in accordance to law in WW2 but also in regard to the Mauerschützen (the soldiers that shot dissidents at the inner German border)- meaning that there were difficulties persecuting them as it was technically legal. There were way too few persecutions, however something called the Radebrechtsche formula was developed. Paraphrasing it says, something that is morally wrong to every morally thinking being cannot be legalized or excused. It is simply illegal to act on orders that are naturally wrong.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Sure, but how many 18 year old boys were convicted for being conscripted into the Wehrmacht?

The US uses economic coercion to force poor kids into joining. They give veterans a massive priority bump for public sector jobs and the GI Bill is often the only way poor kids can afford college.

Also, the US military uses far more obfuscation than the Nazis used. When I was in the Air Force, I worked in geo-spatial intelligence which was mostly extracting heat signatures from satellite collected data. They kept us in the dark on what our intel was being used for. All I knew was that our intel was helping to save the lives of our fellow soldiers somehow and that the government would pay for my college when I was done.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are literally arguing the same as all Nazis did. "I was just following orders". US military decided to join an organisation that constantly attacks other countries.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ah, the Nuremberg defense. 😶

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[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (7 children)

reminds me of how they always try to justify the nuking of japan cities that had hundreds of thousands of civillians (twice even)

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

What? It's just enhanced interrogation!

[–] quantum_faun@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Praise your "heroes". It’s enlightening to watch a civilization confuse slaughter with honor.

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