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[–] FrankMaleir@lemmy.world 274 points 4 days ago (20 children)
[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 301 points 4 days ago (11 children)

They are literally pumping and dumping the stock market as a whole. It's market manipulation by tariff as they make bank on peoples fear.

[–] witchybitchy@lemm.ee 149 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

announce tariffs > market uncertainty > sell off stocks > value goes down > buy the dip > pause tariffs > markets recover > laugh all the way to the bank

or something like that

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 55 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That, plus you can short stocks without even holding any

[–] djsp@feddit.org 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not to speak of options. With how high volatility got, writing puts must have made bank, and, despite that high volatility, buying calls must have too.

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[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Trex202@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This isn't really Pump and Dump though, it's more like "Dip and Rip"

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 92 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Chaos. And it's intentional. It makes the US vulnerable.

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[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 70 points 4 days ago (6 children)

At this point, I am convinced it's a pump and dump scheme, still ongoing, too. It only takes a few people in the know of when and where the news break about the tariff supsension, to seriously make a killing on the market, on the backs of others. Trumpists can now also (for a while) feel like their God has saved them again and never steered them wrong, or curse their momemts of doubt, when they did not buy yesterday, as their prophet called for.

It is a mixture of incompetence, impulsivity, but I am certain at this point, a huge chunk of it is outright corruption and cult tactics.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I honestly believe it is intentional as well. The 90 pause that went around social media the other day wasn't a mistake it was a leak.

They'd be stupid to not be financially gaining from their intentional manipulation. We hired an entire administration of grifters, what else should we expect?

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[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wtf is going on

A psychopathic criminal regime has taken over the US.

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[–] javacafe01@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 4 days ago

They're openly doing insider trading

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 141 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This just proves that US tariff policies are unstable.

Why would any company move production to US based on tariff then? Imagine spending money to move a factory from China to America, and the next month tariffs flip flop and your competitor laughs at you all the way to the back counting earnings from their Chinese imports.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Dems just need to say that their candidates will drop all new tariffs like this. Which is goofy (repubs pro-tariff, dems anti), but it incentivizes them to not go along with any of this, medium/long term

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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 115 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Trump is fighting against himself, and he is losing.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 88 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is blatant market manipulation, he and his cohort are laughing their asses off getting richer than ever

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[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

When I played Pokemon as a kid, I would get so mad when my Pokemon 'hurt itself in confusion'. I thought, how the hell is that even possible. But now I see it first hand...

[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 107 points 4 days ago (6 children)

This is so stupid. He announce tariffs, markets tank. He pauses, markets rebound. He then imposes tariffs, markets tank. He pauses.... oh he's jerking off everyone. got it.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 101 points 4 days ago

I'll give you one guess when he and his cronies are buying and selling stocks.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm beginning to think Wall Street and this stock market thing might involve scamming and fraudulent activity... Maybe crypto too...

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 days ago

🌎🧑‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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[–] Helvetica@sh.itjust.works 63 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So he's giving the other countries a 90 day reprieve to seek other trading partners? Ones that aren't dictated by a toddler who thinks random mood swings are the basis of a sensible foreign trade policy? Smart move, trump.

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[–] gregs_gumption@lemm.ee 85 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Pure fucking market manipulation.

At this point I kind of hope China goes nuclear and implements a complete import and export ban with the United States. China has the social infrastructure inplace and debt head room to borrow their way out of any kind of financial crisis. The United States does not.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

China uses debt differently. Local governments are not allowed to borrow money directly, so they use companies to borrow money for public works. The system is called local government financing vehicle(lgfv). They usually get land, which they sell or lease to get some money or to secure loans. It is usually understood that local governments would bail lgfv out. The issue with lgfv is that they owe more money then the GDP of China and it is secured with mostly real estate, which is somewhat on the edge of crashing. Chinese real estate is crazy overvalued, so popping that bubble can hurt China badly.

The difference is that China is in a trade war with the US. The US is in a trade war with the rest of the world.

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Remember when flip-flopping was bad for a politician?

[–] cocomutative_diagram@infosec.pub 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, but this is the art of the deal™

(/s in case any dumbass is reading this. There is no art and he made no deal, except the deal with his criminal friend to do insider trading)

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 69 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So if the other day was liberation day, then today is…?

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] frazw@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Profit like a motherfucker day.

You think he doesn't have someone buying the stocks he tanked just before his announcement.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Personally I'm siding with China he's going to hit the rest of us again in 3 months again. This is blatant stock manipulation in my opinion and he should be jailed for both that and treason.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"I am bleeding, making me the victor"

[–] Kristoph15@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Face to foot style, how'd you like it?

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 days ago

Trump's tariff policy is like the Windows file copy dialogue.

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/estimation.png

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The stock dropped enough, now the harvesting can Start.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
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You'll love your $2250 iPhone and you'll be happy

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Now, I'm not an economist but it looks like orange pile was just testing how he could fuck around the economic beehive. I'm gonna get my money out after it recovers and a few days before the orange pile tries anything again. Probably I should move my retirement money overseas?

I'm looking around for other strategies.

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Nothing says "Genius" better than changing your mind more than your Depends.

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[–] BumbyJohnson@lemm.ee 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

China raises tariffs to 204% tomorrow’s headline.

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[–] sleezer@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why stop there? Why not 500% or 1000%? We'll see the greatest US market in history. It'd be legendary. Like no president has ever done before. /S

This guy is a moron. The United States will be in a self made recession or depression very soon cause of this clown.

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So he imposed them on everyone to see who would retaliate the hardest and when China did he decided that ok got a target and doubled down even harder. He used it as bait to see who would be the most pissed. Someone please shoot him, cut off his head, hang his corpse from the torch of the statue of liberty.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No one had time. China's tariffs were announced earlier, but the EU and other blocs would have undoubtedly followed (and might still follow with 10%), but they freaking think it through over at least a week like a normal government.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

wow, a fascist cunt biting more than he could chew? gotta be the first time.

pussy.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 21 points 4 days ago

It's almost like tariffs should go thru a process to be decided. Instead of decided by trump when he's sitting on toilet

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