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Literally the moment Trump won I pulled all of my investments off of the stock market.
I just knew shit will hit the fan. Here I am not losing 10% of my savings because of the crazy cheetos man and his crazy stupid nazi sponsor
For now.. Only a matter of time until this trickles out from stocks and into salaries, prices, benefits, etc
I mean they voted for a criminal. So yeah.
Shoots market in the dick
“Don’t worry folks, all part of the plan”
Puts bandages on market
“There, good as new”
Fading? Shit's gone, dog.
They mean the rich fucks. Not me and you.
I know that my quality of life is likely to tank in the coming years, and if it doesn't it is because I got lucky where others didn't, but damn is it hilarious seeing how fucking stupid centrist business bros and tech people are in the U.S. right now, they are JUST NOW realizing the boat is sinking, when only half of the boat is still above the water..... it is fucking hilarious honestly and I don't take joy in this happening, I mean I do, but I am not happy it is happening I am rather so sad that if I don't laugh about it all I will do is cry.
I sold 98% of mine.
now I'm diversified across Europe and Asia.
not great, but what choice do I have?
God investors are dumb as shit
Investors are the problem?
I for one like stability when my money is involved, and most people do. Most arent looking for the roulette wheel experience. When you have an idiot wielding tremendous power to throw out trade agreements and to inadvertently or intentionally tank certain businesses and industries because they're significantly affected by tariffs, and from one day to the next they're added, removed, added again, increased, now decreased... that's not a place you want your money. And the government's where those businesses reside aren't stable either as their future taxes and revenue streams are hard to predict, so their bonds are dicey.
So what do you think investors should do? So what are you doing? Just crossing your fingers and rolling the dice? Got any major purchases coming up? Hoping to retire soon? If you lost your job how secure you feeling about getting another right now? Maybe invest in $TRUMP... I'm sure that will carry you.
Yeah the idea that NOW is when they fear confidence in America is fading means they're fucking morons. It should have been obvious after the first round of tariff bailouts in trumps first admin.
raises fear that confidence in America is fading
Just now that fear is being raised?
Google searches for stable foreign bonds skyrockets
USD denominated bonds are by definition 100% exposed to the USD and it has been falling consistently (with but a single dead cat bounce) against other major currencies since Trump took over.
International investors are probably avoiding the Dollar (and hence Dollar-denominated assets) in favor of other currencies.
This would also explain why Gold keeps on beating records almost daily: it's sort of a "traditional" currency hence benefits from outflows from major currencies.
If this turns into the end of the Reserve Currency status for the USD, expect massive problems in the US with Inflation and servicing the massive US National Debt (if Treasury auctions have lower demand, Treasure yields have to go up in order to sell them, which is equivalent to say that interest rates on US Government loans go up).
Which makes sense to all of us who see Trump as a Russian asset who's goal is not to cripple America but to destroy it. This is the end game and why Americans need to really ramp up their protests. This is the literal death of America we are witnessing as killed by Russia (and probably China too)
killed by Russia
And don't forget tech-bros like Elon Musk.
And remember he doesn’t have to be an official asset, merely being someone useful to them effectively does the same thing - with deniability for the Russians
His whole cabinet is full of Israeli loyalists and you are all still out here talking about Russia. Dude open your eyes.
Wynaut both?
Because one is a distraction.
When US policy can change in hours, based on the whims of a madman, it’s not exactly difficult to see why people lose faith in that stability. Investors want long term stability, and right now things are complete chaos.
This is arguably bigger news than the stock market.
It definitely is. If bonds don't sell, or at least no longer sell cheap, then the US might get bigger problems with their budget.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
I can heartily say as an American I have no faith whatsoever in this country and wish all the best in the world to the Canada-Europe-Japan conglomerate to be the only possible beacon of hope on the planet.
As a guy who thought about buying bonds recently and decided to go to gold instead, my thinking was that Trump and/or Elon could definitely make some attempt to steal/divert treasury bonds, hold bonds hostage for some change he wants, or some other fuckery. The US can't go bankrupt - so long as you can trust the leaders to do the most basic rational things. But you can't trust them to do that right now.
If the US loses it's Reserve Currency status because too many international investors are existing it, more printing will directly translate to Inflation.
So whilst technically the US can't go bankrupt, it most certainly can end up with Hyperinflation and all its problems if the printers start going full steam (metaphorically speaking, since nowadays most currency is digital) to stop the bankrupting of the US following Trump/Musk fuckery and foreigners (as well as larger local investors) refuse to buy those new Dollars and actually accelerate their the exiting from positions in USD (and that's not just going to be cash positions but also USD-Denominated assets such as Stocks, Bonds and Treasuries) which seems to have been started happening already judging by news such as this.
I’ve stopped assuming these guys will account for facts, nor that they keep the “no” finance guys around when making decisions.
I think 100% of decisions are made by Trump in the Oval Office based on the object permanence of the last person or tweet he’s seen.
Oil being priced in dollars is a primary driver of why other countries need to buy dollars. I'm worried we're about to find out what happens when OPEC decides to start allowing oil to be traded in euros or yuan.
Oh come on, "Freak" sell off makes it sound like there's some mystery as to what caused this when it's blindingly obvious what the problem is here. The markets, and far more importantly all decent and rational people throughout the world, won't and shouldn't have any confidence in anything as long as Donald Trump is president. The only thing that starts to fix this mess is his resignation or impeachment (and that is only a start, investigations criminal charges and sentences amendments to laws etc. all need to happen too).