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Dr. Lisa Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.

A doctor born in the United States says she received an email from federal immigration authorities demanding that she leave the country immediately.

Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling her, “It is time for you to leave the United States."

Immigration authorities have been pushing noncitizens to leave of their own volition, or “self-deport,” as the number of deportations remains at similar levels to last year.

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If a non-personal email — such as an American citizen contact — was provided by the alien, notices may have been sent to unintended recipients, It does make me concerned there’re a lot more people out there like me who probably also thought this was spam, who probably didn’t realize, ‘I have a problem,’

Having a mistake in this situation makes it less clear whether other messages are legitimate or not, so we might see more cases like those described around https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-people-receiving-racist-text-012451742.html

[–] Haus@kbin.earth 300 points 5 days ago (4 children)

With an exotic name like Lisa Anderson (I'm sorry, did I pronounce that right?) She's kind of asking for trouble like this.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 120 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They're pushing the boundaries, to see what they can get away with.

I'm just joking.

They can get away with anything.

They scraped her social media, deemed it to have "Improper Attitude," and targeted her. Besides, the only reason she's not the kitchen, not making sammiches where she belongs, is because of AA/DEI, right guyz?!!!

Edit again: wrong doctor. Still...

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Remember when they thought the covid shot was a way to keep track of you. Why don't they care all of a sudden?

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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago (21 children)

If I received a message like this, I would buy a plane ticket to a safe country and would apply for asylum immediately, and I would use the letter as a basis for the asylum application. It seems like a really strong basis for the application.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 111 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Everybody is assuming that this is the result of this administration's virtuosic incompetence, but it is equally possible that these people have been specifically targeted. The last one was an immigration attorney, so that seemed to indicate they were harrassing someone who was opposing them. I wonder if they have some bizarre reason to target this woman.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Conceivably it is both. There's a Dr. Lisa Anderson on a list somewhere for some reason and the admin simply does not care if they sent the letter to the right person.

Similarly, when the ICE agents kick down her door, they won't care if she's the right person either.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago (4 children)

"Fuck it, take her anyway."

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

Admitting to a mistake weakens their idea of authority. Authority, any authority, will do anything before they admit to a mistake. If you've ever put at a disadvantage because of an authority's mistake, you know how it goes.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's essentially a real quote:

"No, he's not the one," one ICE agent reportedly said.

"Take him anyway," the other replied.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 130 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The underlying unsaid context: "White American with White Name who never has been outside the country told to self-deport". Yes, WHITE AMERICA it could happen to YOU!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (12 children)

White people have never been exempt. One of my few criticisms of the BLM movement was that they should have been more inclusive.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 166 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The famous quote about Nazis, "First they came for..." is being realized at intense pacing.

Fuck fascists and their garbage Nazi AI injection into government systems. All Nazis are garbage and the exception to the rule about acceptance and inclusion. GTFO!

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Death to Nazis!

If this is against mods policy go ahead and delete but... seriously.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Flashback956@feddit.nl 29 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Why would you do the via email and not an official letter? People see it as spam or it might be the wrong email adres. Fucking amateurs.

[–] abdominable@lemm.ee 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because none of the people in charge know what they are doing.

There is one good thing about this, if email is now official means of primary government communication, that means it's a guaranteed right that has to be provided for free.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

are you out of your mind? the only official channel of government communication is twitter (x)!

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[–] Flashback956@feddit.nl 12 points 4 days ago

Of course sending this letter to an American citizen in the first place is bad to begin with.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

The ones to Us Citizens were meant for next month... Opps

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 86 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What's as bizarre as anything else about this is that they are sending these to people via email. Like she says, most people will just think it's spam. What official US government organization has ever before sent official legal stuff via email? None. Until now.

The idea that if you don't see an email threatening to arrest or deport you, because it was filtered as spam or looks like spam or was sent to an old email you don't even use anymore or any number of things related to email being an unreliable way to contact someone, is scary.

I also read somewhere that some govt agency (don't recall which, I think it was a health agency?) would now be posting all official notices on X instead of on their own official website!!!

[–] Pupscent@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It sets up a situation where anyone could misrepresent the government and send these types of emails out to harass people.

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 5 days ago

Pretty sure that's the point

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I also read somewhere that some govt agency (don't recall which, I think it was a health agency?)

Social Security Administration

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Chances are those idiots are just using a shitty LLM to parse through folders of documents and extract names, then templatize them into a form email without any validation. She could have been listed as a physician for some other person and her name showed up on some random medical document and the dumb system grabber her that way.

They're too dumb to even comprehend what they are doing, they're using AI like it's canon all over the place.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (5 children)

This is actually great.

I mean, I know this is going to be a cynical take, but I have nothing left but cynicism towards my country.

If the administration starts persecuting white Americans, that's far more likely to rile up middle-class, liberal America than if people with "exotic" names like 'Garcia" get deported. It sucks but it's true, our country is built on a foundation of mildly xenophobic middle-class liberals who don't really care what happens politically until they feel personally threatened, and at this point I really, really want them to feel the danger so there's some chance of recovering this tragic slide back into the fucking dark-ages.

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This is what? 3rd or 4th time we've heard about this happening? Crazy.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 79 points 5 days ago (14 children)

I would like to see these pathetic Nazis leave the country.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That's more charitable than I'd like to be.

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[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

It is time for you to leave the United States.

Well, considering the political climate I can't really argue with that.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 65 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Get guns. Go sit with these women and minorities who are being attacked. Wait for the gestapo. Act.

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[–] lengau@midwest.social 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

thats why scientists and MDs are the first to flee a dictatorship before shit hits the fan, and people were complaining they should stay and fight. they dint go to school and act like country bumpkins.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Time to muddy the waters. Everyone who is an immigrant (legal or illegal) when asked for an email address, find an email address of an executive at a large corporation and use that.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have an idea

But I'm not sure yet whether a government telling a citizen to GTFO NAO is enough persecution and threat to warrant giving refug--- doctor, you say? Let's show you to some housing for while you sit the re-cert exam.

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[–] ladel@feddit.uk 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I would assume it's a spam email and delete it. Are they really deporting people over email? Seems more like a postal letter kind of thing.

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (5 children)

This is just the ammunition they'll use when they put a bag over her head and send her to El Salvador.

"We told her she had 7 days to deport. She's an immigrant with no due process. She didn't listen. She's now in CECOT. No, we can't and/or won't get her back, even if we're ordered to do so."

It's blatant at this point.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 days ago

How the fuck are they getting email addresses? This is rife for abuse but I suppose that's the point.

This part is chilling:

Anderson has been carrying her U.S. passport on her at all times since receiving the email and is seeking an immigration attorney.

There was a news report of another citizen who carried their passport but ICE confiscated it saying it was fake.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think ICE should self deported, but that's just me. Maybe we can start with Elon FuckStick since he overstayed his visa when he first came to the U.S.

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