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[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz -3 points 11 hours ago

Lmao no it doesn't

Americans aren't that stupid

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Have 4 kids.

5k is couch money when you have kids. It'll maybe take care of a few months of daycare. Now if you're on gov assistance and make next to nothing? This will be great, but don't expect to get a job or climb out of poverty with 5k. A kid will eat that up super fast.

[–] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are these those welfare babies Republicans always screeeched about?

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Spending money on families hasn't been shown to help in any way whatsoever in increasing the birth rate. You have countries with close to free day care and generous monthly child subsidies with the same or even much lower fertility rate as countries that give just about nothing at all. I still support these kinds of policies just for the sake of helping families and their kids, but doing it for the only purpose of helping the fertility rate is futile. Honestly I don't think the government can do much at all to help the fertility rate. It's a cultural issue first and foremost. And the government can't (and I think shouldn't!) do much to change the culture of our society. You see people living in poverty with 9 kids just because they belong to a certain religious or ethnic group who values children above all else. That's the main issue. How important is children to the culture? Is it prestigious to be a dad or a mom? Is personal success measured in how you've built your family or is success measured in how much money you make?

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It's a work culture issue. People need free time to socialise meaningfully. Notice how Iceland and France are as high or higher than Colombia?

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Latin American countries have recently had a collapse in birth rate, even since that chart from 2017 was made. Colombia has dropped to 1,2 in 2023. Fertility rates are collapsing almost everywhere and I think it's because of how globalisation is spreading anti natalist culture around the globe. It's so drastic and so consistent in nearly every developed country.

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[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an atheist baby-eater, sign me up. I could have a lovely dinner party for $5K on Hallowen every year and not have to find a main course.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's the only way anyone would financially benefit from this bill. Infanticide. And only if they do a home birth.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think babies are supposed to be profitable.

If you're already gonna have a baby anyway, the 5k is a bonus. Otherwise it won't do much for you.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

Completely. And therefore this is an absolutely terrible way to "boost the U.S. population".

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

as always, trump's face is in it.

they should have plated the purse in gold to complete the package.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

instead of DEPENDING on GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS new parents should be GRATEFUL someone is WILLING to be GENEROUS and provide them with such GOODWILL. America is WINNING again under PRESIDENT TRUMP

@BigMacHole@lemm.ee am I doing it right?

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

I sometimes joke with my kids and call them Lamborghini 1 and 2, because that's how much money it was suggested you would need for each kid, and I'm sure that has doubled or tripled by now.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 day ago

I mean I like the direction, but this is far cry from other countries.

Give us UHC, improve working rights, guaranteed housing for parents, daycare.

But Its good they at least bringing it up.

[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

hospital bill will likely be 10x that

[–] dangling_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Well, in a couple of years, some countries more than 50% of the population will be retired. Even a perfect democracy would not pass a law to improve young people’s lives so they can have time and money to have kids.

Just like in a perfect democracy, no affordable housing law will be approved because 66% of the population are homeowners.

Its unsolvable.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Considering also, how much they all complained about handing out checks during the pandemic...this just makes no sense. Now they're fine handing out even bigger checks, just to replace the people they're obsessed with deporting?

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[–] scala@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

Add an extra zero to that. Then we might consider

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

This is such a classic fascist play, get your bingo cards out ladies

[–] jaykrown@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

This is a great summary of exactly why I won't have kids. I don't want to spend all my waking hours working so a billionaire can afford a private island.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The USA should copy the Swedish maternity leave.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 22 hours ago

Let them get braces.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The government giving people stuff they didn't earn? Sounds kind of progressive. Is that really the image pure fucking evil vile narcissistic scum really want?

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

(frantically waves hands in the air) b-but WE NEED BABIES

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago

Putin did the same thing, he aware 16k equivalent for having 10+ children .

[–] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 day ago

Nobody can afford health care and they want us in the office no remote work making it even more difficult. It's almost like they want to run us all into the ground while they sit on gold toilets and enrich themselves beyond all measure of reason. Oh and they're building bunkers in New Zealand, the billionares pulling the strings so when they get us into a nuclear war you won't hear from them again.

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