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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The only reason the party has the woke reputation is that empty lip service is really all they had left. People like this need to get a fucking clue. If people want to vote for republicans, they will never ever ever get confused and accidentally vote for democrats just because you mirrored their policies from 12-20 years ago.

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Outsider opinion: There are two sides who haven’t voted for you, one side who says they’ll vote for you if you change, and another side who says they’ll never vote anything but red. There seems to be an obvious vote to go after.

[–] toolverine@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Capitulation to the right hasn't worked for 20 years. The Third Way is dead and no one respects it.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not only do we not respect it, we hate it with the heat of a thousand suns

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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

It's really nice when the false progressives out themselves so openly.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago

At least she's honest about throwing in with fascism.

The rest of the Democratic party is pissing on our leg and telling us it's raining.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Slotkin says she wants to take the focus off of Oligarchy and Putin's smile just gets a few inches wider.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah if she wasn't CIA I'd perhaps understand her perspective of wanting to focus on just attacking Trump as the King

But.. this issue is so beyond Trump that focusing it on him will just make people go back to normal when he's gone - which is not okay

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[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

Ah another closet republican, nice

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She ate the onion, I have never seen the word "Woke" used in a conversation without it being extremist politics or a comedy routine.

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

More woke, less selling out your citizens to the wealthy. Thats what I want.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I understand where people are coming from when they say "identity politics" are politics getting in the way of class struggle. I vehemently disagree with it, these are also important issues we need to stand up for even when they are sometimes unpopular, but I understand where it comes from.

But if she also thinks we shouldn't be talking about class either, what the fuck does she want to do?

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

woke is what republicans use to attack whatever they dont like, if a democrat uses woke, they arnt really a DEMocrat, alot of them have a veneer of being dem or progressive but they often use buzzwords of right wingers to justify thier positions.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

THESE are the types of incumbents the DNC does not want primaried?! Holy hell.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago

"I can't believe the country doesn't get this!? The Republicans won and they hate this stuff so we just need to be Republicans and then we can win!"

.... /wrist

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Slotkin is the kind of Democrat who will be literally seig heiling at the DNC convention in ten years if the party continues to pursue the policies of capitulation that she is advocating for here. Four decades of this approach by this party has enabled the rise of US fascism we are dealing with now.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

And you're the problem

[–] Venoregard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Slotkin is a NEOCON.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Whelp.

Guess Slotkin is getting a “collaborator” postcard from me.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

For those of you that can't be bothered to read more than a headline:

Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing ‘Woke’ Reputation

AP Photo/Paul Sancya, Pool

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

During an interview with Politico national politics correspondent Adam Wren, Slotkin spoke about her “war plan” to “contain and defeat” President Donald Trump.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

Slotkin told the news outlet, “Trump is doing a whole bunch of things that I think are a threat to our economy and a threat to our Democracy and I have a responsibility on behalf of my state to point that out and try to do something about that.”

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) – the most likely Democratic presidential nominee in 2028, according to analyst Nate Silver – recently commenced a “Fight Oligarchy” tour with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) across the United States.

Last month, after Slotkin was asked by a constituent how she would “step up for us now” like Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders, Slotkin threw shade at her progressive colleagues.

“Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation with Donald Trump and the cuts and the attacks on our judiciary and the attacks on our Constitution?” asked Slotkin, who claimed her responsibilities fighting Trump’s government cuts forced her “to be more than just an AOC.”

“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, talking about "alpha energy" definitely doesn't make the speaker look sad and weak. /s

Even if pandering to the manosphere wasn't itself incredibly cringe, she's years out of date on their terminology. Truly this is a demonstration of how she's got her finger on the pulse of the people.

And "kings" is very much not a synonym for "oligarchy" and she's definitely purposefully choosing that rather than something that would continue to offend the uber-wealthy.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions

The crowds at the AOC rallies prove her wrong. It does resonate with people, just not for the pro-business, zionist, reach across the aisle industry-whore constituents Slotkin represents.

"Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation with Donald Trump "

The anti oligarchy tour drew huge crowds and energized an angry base thats rapidly abandoning the democratic party. What has Slotkin done, besides uselessly infight with progressives, push lobbyist interests, and normalize a bunch of language the republicans use? Here she is denigrating "coastal institutions" as out of touch, and in her state of the union rebuttal she said Ronald reagan would be rolling over in his grave. Why is she talking about Ronald Reagan? i'd hope Reagan's coffin is 1000% full of democrats piss, so I'd be happy if he rotated in that piss all day every day. She sure talks like a republican.

Slotkin is a shining example of everything thats wrong about the DNC and the current democratic party.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Makes me wonder how many more senators in the democratic party have similar opinions. my estimate is at least %70

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

bye felicia

[–] UncleJosh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

What are they going to do, ask MAGA to stop calling them "woke"? MAGA is all about bullying people, so saying "we don't like your name-calling" is only going to make it worse.

Grow a spine. Respond with "I know what woke means, so are you arguing against it from the racism angle or the ignorance angle?"

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 1 week ago

Hey stupid you're doing it wrong. Going even more to the right isn't going to change jack shit. Listen to the people who are already willing to vote for Democrat if only the Democrat wasn't an idiot.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Literally, the opposite of what they should be doing. And saying Americans are too stupid to understand a word like "oligarchy" isn't a good look, either.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

American number 1 priority would be to get out this 2 party system with ranked voting or something.

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