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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As an IT worker.. it's so depressing that our education systems don't really train people for work. At all.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"sure, they grew up with technology, they'll be fine"

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

They grew up in the age of the smartphone and apps. They never had to learn to understand technology.

I have to teach fresh college graduates how to navigate network folders. It's wild.

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Classic Lemmy Linux users forgetting that access to a PC and the knowledge to use it is a privilege not afforded to most unlike budget smartphones which cost less than the keyboard you own and are becoming more and more of a necessity than a trivial toy as it was when we first had them.

Lamenting generational failures is a pastime reserved for the old to soothe their egos. If you actually care, understand the systemic reasons why young people are less tech literate and take the steps to reach them.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I understand the reasons, but so many people I've had to deal with don't seem to want to learn.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Bingo. I have noticed a huge downfall in curiosity and engagement with not only technology, but pretty much everything in the world. People just want to be spoon-fed and will fight you throw a hissy fit rather than just... learn or make an effort to figure things out on their own.

I used to be a part of a DIY repair space for tech and mechanics and left because around 2022 it went from fun to just... a bunch of lazy people showing up and whining that other people were not doing the work for them. And you'd explain it was a DIY space for people to self-learn and they would just give you this vague look and get angry and then complain that 'I thought you were suppose to do it for me.'

I don't know what it is, social media or phone addiction or what. It seems to be just as bad will millennials now as any other gen. People just... don't want to try anymore at anything. And trying is the only way you properly learn anything.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also, people don't seem interesting in figuring tech stuff out, its so easy to just google an error message, and read what it says.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Most people carry a smartphone more expensive than my all organs combined to be fair, at least in US.

Linux and technology in general is not that hard as long as you aren't scared of clicking everything and messing around. And I say this as someone who didn't have internet access until 2020.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

I bought a 2013 MacBook Air for $60 a year ago to take with me on a backpacking trip.

It is running the very latest release of EndeavourOS and runs it well. It can do video calls. Honestly, there is little it cannot do.

You can use it to learn to program C, C++, Rust, Python, Go, Java, C#, and F#. It runs Distrobox and Docker so you can learn about containers. I guess after using QEMU/KVM to learn about VMs. You can use it to run K3S. You can run Postman, RestAssured, and Selenium to learn about Web APIs and testing. It runs WASM. You can orchestrate AWS or Azure from it as it runs both Terraform and OpenTofu great. It can run a host of cybersecurity tools including BurpSuite. You can run both SQL and Document databases. You can use it to package your own software and contribute to Linux distro development. You can emulate older machines and even run digital design tools and PCB layout. Obviously it runs all the major modern web browsers and a couple different Office suites. It can even do basic video editing and run smaller LLMs. It can run Steam if you are happy with older games. I know it can do all these things because I have.

Without going on and on, I think you could use it to rotate a PDF.

It comes with keyboard, trackpad, screen, and networking built in. It takes up hardly any space. And it is considerably less expensive than most phones and tablets. Of course, there are many less expensive computers that would also do the trick if you cannot afford $60 and just want to learn.

I don’t think you can argue that basic computer skills are elitist. We are not talking F1 racing here.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I am gen z and know how to use a computer

Most of us should have been taught how to use computers in school then we expand our knowledge from there on our own

Is this an american only problem?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not American. I'm also Gen z, but the older parts are typically better at computers.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

People are as experienced in computers as their use case is

No one is better at computers than someone else, everyone has different tasks and workflows they use them for

Computer skill isn't linear

It'd be more accurate to say someone is more experienced in their industry area or specific skill, they just use a computer to make the tasks they perform easier

Computers are so intergrated into most things theese days that it'd be very hard to find someone not using one to make their life easier and most jobs are using computers to make it easier and organise better

[–] squinky@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Gen X checking in here. I’m actually happy to be left out of the memes. Carry on.

[–] Feelfold@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I always feel like Gen X should be labeled as the "forgotten generation".

[–] squinky@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

I mean that’s what “Generation X” means. We were forgotten from the beginning, forced into the long shadow of the Baby Boomers.

[–] Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

I felt like an idiot the other day. Customer sent in a pdf with confidential information. I needed to upload the document without the confidential information but only have the free Adobe. I normally redact the information in paint but paint wouldn't accept the file format.

I ended up asking a gen x teammate and she instantly told me to use the snipping tool which solved my problem. Thank you Gen X coworkers

[–] SirDimples@programming.dev 4 points 6 days ago

As a dev, the divide between apps users and computer software users is fascinating. My mom can do things in instagram or whatsapp that I didn't even know possible.. but put her in front of a modern computer with a simple application and she's completely lost! I try to explain that it's exactly the same as her phone its just a larger screen/physical keybaord with different apps, doesn't seem to help.

Unlike with boomers, this shit was your fault. Y'all refused to kill off iPhone and macbooks and chromebooks and Windows and now this is the world we live in.

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Just think about gen alpha

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