My feet hurt just looking at those fucking things. Are they made of cardboard?
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Aamericans tend to over engineer, an approach which in many cases can be very desirable, but in this case would result in 1 inch thick of the heaviest rubber, with a tread, with a leather covering for entire foot, up to over the ankle, and the whole thing held together with shoelaces.
This could have been effective. Instead they chose to showcase a thing which gets manufactured everywhere in the world. Media literacy is dead, god help us.
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They totally forgot to add the "Made In China" label on those flop-flips. Come on Chinese Embassy! If you're gonna show off your own failures and pass them off as our own, you gotta show actual US products!
I'd tell them to man up, but I don't make fun of minors or those with the mental age if a minor.
50 years of manufacturing job loss can't be fixed in one presidential term. Nicocado didn't lose all that weight in one week. Change can be hard and painful. But not changing would be giving up on the next generation. He might be rude, he might be orange, but by god he is addressing the elephant in the room everyone else is ignoring.
There is some motive to use the stick to motivate industries - after you have shown them a carrot.
It’s like if you see a child has abusive parents, so you just drain the bank accounts of those parents, and nudge to the child “Hey, you should look for new parents”.
Look at Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act. He actually encouraged growth of solar production in red states so that clean energy could actually become a profitable industry here. Once that went into full swing, THEN tariffs on Chinese panels would make sense.
In a global economy there's no need to be fully self sufficient; unless, for some reason, no one wants to work with you.
If the true goal is to just bring manufacturing back to the US then a stable economy and negotiated deals with entities that are actually manufacturing things are going to go so much further than just telling the rest of the world to find new clientele among the remaining 96% of the global population because the 4% that lives in the US can no longer afford it due to artificially imposed limits.
He might be rude and orange... He might also have done all this with no plan, he might be driving up the cost of virtually everything, he might be driving many small businesses into bankruptcy, he might have created instability that's going to make everyone reluctant to start new businesses, he might have driven away all of America's trading partners, he might have handed the 21st century to China on a silver platter, he might have ended the dollar as the global reserve currency and all the perks that come with that... I could go on.
How much more damage will Republicans do to the US before enough people accept that, by and large, our manufacturing days are behind us? And that manufacturing leaving our shores is not the reason the working and middle classes are poorer than they used to be?
by and large, our manufacturing days are behind us.
I agree, but even if one were convinced that they aren't, the proper way to do it is to use your congressional majority to come up with a package of actual targeted tariffs that phase in over time and thereby incentivize investment, which you can also do by subsidizing industrial development and getting labor on your side (other than the lukewarm conditional support of UAW and only UAW).
This, though, is a stupid and angry old man desperate for a legacy, being counseled by nativists and Christian Nationalists and nothing is coherent or likely to be effective. It's tearing down the existing system that, for better or worse, people have had to build their lives around, with nothing more than "concepts of a plan" for how to replace it, and with no real intention to have anything new benefit anyone but the super-rich for whom the worst outcomes are delayed megaprojects and lowered spots on a ranked list of billionaires.
The tariffs were planned. Presidents generally roll out the 'eating your vegetables' policies in their second term. Of course its going to drive up prices, that is the point. The small business that start making domestic goods will make good money. The small businesses that just dropship crap from Temu and Alibaba will go out of business. The dollar was already disappearing as the global reserve currency before Trump.
We need to NOT accept that manufacturing is behind us. NEVER accept failure.
We need to NOT accept that manufacturing is behind us. NEVER accept failure.
How is manufacturing being behind us failure, exactly? Does an engineer fail when they pay to eat at a restaurant? The service industry jobs that make up 3/4 of our GDP pay better than manufacturing jobs. Tariffs are like adding a restaurant tax to incentivize lawyers and doctors and engineers to cook at home.
Transitioning from low paying physical work to high paying mental work is success, not failure.
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There's no businesses, large or small, set up to take advantage of the tariffs in most industries. And it's difficult for new businesses to set up because there's an air of uncertainty to everything right now, because Trump likes to roll things out major changes with as little warning as he can - which is not an environment conducive to investment of any kind. Further, the equipment that would be needed to start a new manufacturing business is, by and large, covered by tariffs!
As for accepting failure - we didn't fail to keep those manufacturing jobs. We developed to the point nobody was willing to do those jobs for a cost effective price. That is not a failure.
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You're right that there's a real issue with globalisation And tariffs aren't even an insane mechanism to use. But the way that the administration is using them is either a) well-intentioned but incredibly badly implemented, or b) a cynical manipulation.
The sad part is that it's likely to make it harder to change things for better in the long run. Instead of a sane plan to develop domestic manufacturing we have this chaos, and once it's over people will be wary of the very idea.
It must take some serious mental gymnastic training to try and justify trumps economic policy
If you understand economics yes, but in most cases it is just parroting the media
I agree that trying to bring manufacturing capability is a huge deal. Economics aside people talk about private jets polluting like crazy, well every container ship belches smoke like the fucking fire navy. And there's a lot of them
Speaking of the navy there's a concerning amount of missile components that are subcontracted to chinese companies
But all that said if I was a company and I could hold out for 4 years I wouldn't build facilities in the US. When the new admin comes in I bet they would remove tarrifs and those facilities become way less profitable
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