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House Republicans have voted down an effort to block immigration enforcers from using federal resources to detain or deport U.S. citizens.

During a House Judiciary Committee meeting on Wednesday, Democrats tabled amendments to a sweeping budget bill that President Donald Trump has dubbed "one big, beautiful bill."

One amendment introduced by Representative Pramila Jayapal, the Democrat from Washington state, sought to make clear Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cannot detain or deport U.S. citizens under any circumstances. GOP lawmakers killed that amendment.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Stop calling them “Republicans”. They are Nazis.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

Exactly. The Republican Party no longer exists. Its now the MAGA Nazi Party, and the Democrats should start routinely referring to them that way.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

They always were. At least since Nixon.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 7 points 7 hours ago

"Republicans vote for ICE to continue kidnapping US citizens"

Replace double negatives where possible

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

Another question is why isn't an active mass violation of human rights (what is a crime in any other industrialized nation) being responded to by the Democrats.

If your representative is Republican, assure that by their refusal to support such a law they are committing a massive wrongdoing against humanity.

If your representative is Democrat, remind them that without immediately responding to this with action and refusal to engage in any other administrative duty, they are complicit.

The future is watching closely the present moment in time, and will not be kind to those who could have acted and yet stood idly by.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

In 5 years, Americans who fuck up while visiting Europe or Asia and get deported will have a meltdown thinking they're being sent to Latin America.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

The main message from Trump supporters is they don't regret anything even if they suffer, long as the right people get hurt. It is impossible to have meaningful society built with people like that as a collective.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 149 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Words matter. They are not deporting citizens. They are kidnapping and quite possibly murdering. It’s a crime. Acknowledge this for the crime that it is. Call it human trafficking. But deporting it is not.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 30 points 2 days ago

Right, so we should add language to the bill that says you can't kidnap and murder US citizens and then see how that's used in court when the other side says they merely deported the person.

Brilliant strategy.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If words matter, I'm curious to know what definition of "deporting" you are using to claim that what they are doing is not deporting people.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Til, I guess to vcan technically deport a citizen.

deport dɪˈpɔːt verb

  • expel (a foreigner) from a country, typically on the grounds of illegal status or for having committed a crime.
  • exile (a native) to another country.
  • conduct oneself in a specified manner. archaic
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[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 122 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At least the line is clearly visible now. It's just us vs them.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fascists to the right and do nothings to the left.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The question is. If you got to choose between the two. Which would you choose. Democrats are awful, but imagine how nice it would have been for nothing to happen. Ukraine and Palestine not become worse. Our allies not alienated. Roving squads of redcaps not on the street kidnapping innocent people, AND THEN FORCING THE PUBLIC TO PAY FOR THEIR BONDAGE IN A FORIEGN NATION. DENIED JUSTICE. Nothing, man; what a dream.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

I have always thought that when a professional does his job properly, you don't even realize he's there.

He's doing what NEEDS to be done.

I have 138 "pet" names for Donald. None of them are flattering.

[–] blakenong 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

To defend the democrats, it’s pretty hard to get anything done when the right wing will basically say “no” to whatever the dems put their name on. Half of a dems job is fixing the shit that got broke when the republicans were in office.

True, they could push a lot harder to the left. But let’s be realistic, if they did they would lose at the polls because the US is like 75% center or right.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Most Americans are, as you estimate, center-to-right, but that's because America has no political party of the left, so lefty ideas are simply unknown to 90% of us. When genuine leftyism is spoken aloud by candidates who actually believe what they're saying — AOC or Sanders and very few others — it's very nearly undefeated.

America is center-to-right the same way someone who's never eaten kiwi fruit thinks kiwi fruit looks icky. Give 'em a bite of kiwi, though, and they'll be kooky for kiwi for life.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, they could push a lot harder to the left. But let’s be realistic, if they did they would lose at the polls because the US is like 75% center or right.

Pandering to the center right is NOT effective. They need to have the courage to stop being afraid of alienating the people who aren't going to vote for them anyway and make some actual change happen.

Republican-lite isn't selling these days.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's ironic since progressive policies are hugely popular, even with independents and Republicans. Yet people still insist that 'most the country is right-leaning,' because they conflate support for the Democratic Party with support for progressives

If the Democrats ran on those progressive policies instead of neoliberal ones, they wouldn't have this problem of being unpopular

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

The ONLY reason that people beliwvebwe are a Center Right nation is because the Conservative Propaganda Machine has been spewing that for decades, with no evidence of it, and with no counter message from the Democrats. So Democrats have come to believe the propaganda, and react accordingly, additionally motivated to believe by their wealthy donors.

It they decided to actually support and promote progressive ideas, like tax reform, Medicare 4 All, student loan forgiveness, housing protection, unions, etc., they'd find a lot of support from a Center Left population.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yet people still insist that ‘most the country is right-leaning,’ because they conflate support for the Democratic Party with support for progressives

Which is odd because the democratic party opposes progressives.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I keep seeing so many people who claim to be on the left saying Democrats could win if they just supported us. Which sounds great. But then one has to wonder. Have we shown them that? We need to be the ones to bring the fight to the democrats. We've passively and complacently let National parties consolidate power for Generations now. And yet we pretend to be confused of when they don't represent us for some reason.

As someone reasonably autistic that has to mask a significant amount to get through the day. I'm not candidate material. But I would I.T. the fuck out of shit for a local campaign willing to show local and National Democrats how to fight.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love how the "you have to vote for us every time no matter how far to the right we go" wing of the party demands decades of patient voting for their complicit republican-lite candidates before they'll listen to their left, but they fall all over themselves trying to please republicans who will never vote for them.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (8 children)

You don't have to in state or local elections. I've always told people to vote for whoever stands the best chance of winning no matter what party they're from as long as they keep the fascist out. But when it comes to National presidential elections mathematically you have to. It's just a fact.

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Check out Rebellion PAC if you want to help bring democrats around to sensible policy and making sure it gets passed.

[–] blakenong 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Very true. What irks me most about voters and politicians is the voters only complain about them during an election. We need constant pressure on them. Make them answer real questions.

Have you watched one of the presidential debate videos? The person asking questions is like, “what color is the sky?” And both parties start talking about taxes. We need some to say, “answer the fucking question,” and we need voters to refuse the candidates who cannot.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes we absolutely need an independent nonpartisan group like the League of Women Voters back. All these fake journalists fretting over access to fascists. Afraid to offend or contradict them don't serve anyone but the fascists.

And this is also why we need to tear down the National Party and build up local parties. That way when you're pissed with them you can go stand outside their office and raise hell. You don't have to hire someone to go to a Washington for you where all these guys are insulated

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I simply cannot bear to watch the debates, ever. Not for decades now. Even the alleged 'highlights' are unendurable. The questions are imbecilic, the answers are rarely even answers, and by unanimous agreement of everyone involved, the questions that matter most are not allowed to be asked.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

House Republicans are traitors

[–] blakenong 18 points 2 days ago

Traitors should be hanged.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

US gonna have to find a way to make these people accountable if they ever want to get out of this shit. But I'm afraid it's already to late,the fascist state will protect those who bend to the dictator.

[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny since their leader (Trump) came here illegally and so did the Musk family! While we have a douche Canadian calling himself “Ted”… fleeing to Mexico to avoid blame in TX. The GOP party is straight up liars, rapists, and uneducated hypocrites. Basically, just all around TRASH! The “American Experiment” has clearly fucking failed! Let’s clean house and move the fuck on!

Trump isn't an immigrant. I don't like the man either but he was born in Queens.

[–] GhostPain@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When do we start acknowledging the GOP are Nazis and the Dems are controlled opposition?

Asking for the disabled and elderly.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And also queer people and non-white people.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago

And women in general.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They added it to an omnibus bill, is it another flaw of the US system that it's unable to pass laws that only cover one issue?

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kinda yeah. Every bill is a negotiation. One side isnt going to straight up agree to a bill presented by the other side without pushing them for a little bit more. And one thing leads to another and the bill is too bloated to make sense anymore

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

PLEASE reach out to minorities for future elections. Evidence like this shows how racist the GOP is; they have to stop voting against their own interests...

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