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A paralegal with the New York County Attorney's Office apparently listened to the entirety of a recorded jail call between Mangione and his attorney

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

They have received their orders from the Sociopathic Oligarchs, one of which is the police commisioner, that he is to be convicted no matter what it takes, so they will cheat in every way possible.

It's an extremely weak case, with the video not proving anything. It doesnt show his face, that could be anyone. Every other piece of evidence could have easily been planted.

Now we know they've been listening in on his calls. This needs to be disclosed to the jury, so they see that they are so desperate to win the case that they will cheat, throwing all the other evidence, and anything they testify to, into doubt.

Luigi's trial is going to be a circus like we haven't seen since the OJ trial.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Ah, so that’s why the prosecutors were recused.

Now charge them and disbar them.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 78 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isn’t that grounds for a mistrial?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think they've impanelled yet.

More like prosecutorial misconduct. But there was an article saying that the prosecutor is stepping down.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’re gonna try to do this one by the book as much as possible to get a conviction. Ironic that they’re finally following rules.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 8 points 23 hours ago

Chose a bad time to do it with how corrupt shit is

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

Plus disbarment.

That was my first thought ya.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 day ago

They should be disbarred.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I was a juror I would refuse to convict just based on that alone

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shhhhhhit! I'm still waiting for them to catch the real killer.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 23 hours ago

Dig him up and put him on trial.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit!

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Probably fits him again by now.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

New research follows online memes of Luigi Mangione, alleged UHC assassin, in normalizing left-wing violence

Anything to cause hatred for him, no matter how bullshit

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 20 points 23 hours ago

left-wing

Lmfao

Ask a MAGA how they feel about health care CEOs getting shot.

And then brace yourself as they scream “ABOUT FUCKIN TIME”

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Man, is it just me, or does that read like they're upset that the violence is "left wing", not that there was violence?

Don't really see this kind of spin when any of the countless righty incels shoot up a school

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

To me, it reads more as "seeee?!?! The people we've been training you to hate for the benefit of our rich owners ARE in fact evil demon-crats"

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 22 hours ago

Love Fox News being an outlet of choice for a the mod of a progressive politics sub.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

They're pointing to it as a justification for violence

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Feelings aside about what Mangione did, it seems like this shouldn't be that challenging of a case. It's impressive they're managing to fuck it up this badly.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah, it’s not a challenging case, they got the wrong guy. CEO shot himself cause he felt bad about what he did.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

CEO felt bad about what he did.

See, I feel like your case falls apart there.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

He felt bad at the moment he stopped being a health insurance CEO

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean Luigi doesn't look like the guy in the CCTV frame caps either. Plus they performed an illegal search and seizure on Luigi. They are complete idiots framing a guy.

In the CCTV photo he is wearing a similar coat and backpack, but definitely not the same clothes as the shooter.

Are we supposed to believe he shot someone and then changed his clothes, but not the color or style?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I strongly suspect they fuck up every case as badly. It's just that the vast majority of them aren't so high profile, so nobody's looking at them under a microscope and we don't hear about it. Injustice is rampant all throughout the prosecutorial system, the odds are deliberately stacked in the state/government's favor and against the accused, and the notion that anyone gets a fair trial in this day and age is laughably naive.

The prosecution absolutely will cheat in any way they think they can get away with because they are secure in the knowledge that they will always get away with it. Nobody will bring the hammer down on them, and even if so they'll then be forced to do what? Prosecute themselves? No one is watching the watchmen in any functional capacity. The state controls the phone systems, the prisons they're in, the wardens keeping the inmates in, the cops who catch them, all the way down the clerks who write the paperwork. Even if someone somewhere in the chain fucks up, they're all chums who see each other every day and they're all on the same side. Private citizens can exert no meaningful oversight over the system whatsoever. The only thing that matters to the prosecution is that they convict, convict, convict regardless of the guilt or innocence of the accused. Ruining lives strengthening the government's position is the point, always. Everything else is just window dressing and lip service.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait is he that trumpet playing guy?

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I always thought he was the one with the green cap. I cheer him on. Need more like him. Not like that Mario fella with the red cap

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

God damn, they're so fucking stupid.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any sources which aren't Fox News? A search just shows headlines from yesterday saying prosecutors deny any eavesdropping.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

No trial date has been set in either case, but his defense team have said they want the federal case to take precedent because it involves the death penalty.

Precedence. I know I'm kicking a dead horse long past its expiry date, but obviously my efforts here rambling about stupid knives or whatever the hell is wasted. I should be a the copy editor for a major news publication instead. I couldn't possibly do a worse job!

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Thanks! also lol @ that fairness meter