Celebrating prematurely. The UK is about to go fascist, Germany is teetering on the brink, and Canada only just dodged a bullet for now.
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The UK is hardly about to go fascist. Labour recently won power and there won't be a national election for years. There were smaller council elections recently and Reform won a few seats, but so did the Greens and Lib Dems. Basically, there were some anti-establishment votes.
East Germany voted AfD, but the rest of the country defeated that.
Canada voted Liberal despite a strong anti-establishment sentiment. It's likely that eventually it will flip back conservative. But, there's a chance that before that happens, the chaos of Trumpism will make the conservatives in Canada try to become an adult, respectable party rather than Maple MAGA.
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And no mention of Italy?
Yes, Italy, Hungary and others are already well down the fascist path. ~~Romania just went fascist~~. Romania's current election front-runner is a fascist. Austria is struggling not to be wholly under the far right's control, depending on a coalition to hold them off. The far right has significant power in the governments of Slovakia, Netherlands, Finland, and Sweden. Portugal and Belgium are also dealing with surging far right movements.
It's absurd to conclude it's over because centrism squeaked through in Canada and Australia. It's like everyone relaxing in 2020 because the US public were sure to see sense under Biden.___
I heard that Poland is also cheering for some MAGA guy in the next election... Troubling times ahead.
For Romania, there might still be a chance in the run-off. However, the difference between the two candidates was quite large (20% difference; 1.8 million votes). Similarly, the other candidates seemed to have voters that would rather vote for the nazi. Most likely all hope is lost, but that 1% chance is still there.
And Portugal overthrew fascism in the 1970s, too...
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Italy has always been a joke, Hungary too
Greece was coming frighteningly close to nazism a few years back
It's so frustrating to see
Like bacteria in a jar. They grow, then become toxic, then die off.
The UK is a bit away from "about to go fascist"
Nigel (Nazi-youth-song-singing, frequent RT guest apologist for Putin & emphatic volunteer for 2nd in line of any future human trumpepede) Farage is as close to actual power as he's ever been—which is not at all.
His party's existence actually potentially helps more reasonable parties because he is splitting the right wing vote
Labour are going to have to come up with something soon though or things could go bad; I get it's their first year and they're doing unpopular things early so they're not fresh for next election, but they're really unpopular right now.
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... Canada only just dodged a bullet for now
By 3 points; less than a basketball goal
And don't forget that Italy, Poland and Hungary are already there and we're about to invade the few countries that went left.
By 3 points; less than a basketball goal
Is there some weird form of Canadian basketball out there where this statement makes sense?
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Poland actually got rid of their right wing government in the last election in 2023 and are hopefully dumping the president who's been blocking reform. It can be done.
Poland is not out of the woods yet though
We don’t have a general election for another 4 years in the UK.
Reform won some council seats and are already having issues.
The fact that they’re getting this far bothers me though.
Absolutely, but people believe the hype, just like they did when Farage was an MEP despite him effecting no positive changes.
With social media and the internet nowadays it’s easy to appeal to a disaffected part of the voting populace with lies and half truths.
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I honestly don’t see a way out of this other than a war against the fascists. Something like the American civil war where the racists got their asses thoroughly beaten, or WWII, where the Nazis got absolutely crushed. I feel like it’s just one of those things that pops up once in a while. Basically, fascists are the herpes of society.
This American situation is partly the long tail of the failure of reconstruction; Confederates got their asses handed to them but they were never properly removed from power. Now the racists are once again in charge, their monuments still stand, their flag is still flown, and the southern strategy is central to their political power.
Compare this to Germany, who stripped Nazis from power, outlawed their symbols, and have guard rails to prevent fascist movements from rising again. (They are now being used against AfD.)
Compare this to Germany, who stripped Nazis from power, outlawed their symbols, and have guard rails to prevent fascist movements from rising again. (They are now being used against AfD.)
Don't know where you're getting that from.
Most Nazis were never actually stripped from positions of power after the war (teachers, public services, our secret services, political parties, I could go on). Outlawing their symbols did fuck all obviously and isn't even enforced as long as you don't go around outright spraying swastikas on walls in broad daylight (or are an antifascist displaying one thrown into a bin, crossed out or otherwise clearly used with an opposing intention). The people in power are unwilling to use the guardrails and systems that we have to prevent Nazis from rising to power again. Meanwhile we have an extremism problem in our police force who won't protect anybody from the mob when the time comes, and a "conservative" party that's just always lagging 5 years behind the AfD in their policies, racing ever further to the right in their wind shadow.
We're fucked.
Exactly this. The Confederates should never have been allowed to rejoin society.
In light of how Reconstruction wasn't allowed to finish, I think Recon v2.0 should start with a summary execution of the leaders, middle management, and any concentration camp personnel or forces.
It sucks to abandon mercy and civility, but it is also clear that conservatism is a repeat rapist of civilization.
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I think US commentators make far too much of Trump and US political influence on the world. It exists but we all have our own cultures, political systems etc out here and we proudly do our own thing. The arrogance of people on all sides of US politics who think an election result on the other side of a world is a reflection of their own domestic politics is incredible.
It would be convenient if the rest of the world could fix a broken US democracy but it is a fantasy. US citizens need to address their problems through struggle and resistance. Their current problems runs very deep in their society and isn't simply an international fashion trend.
If you check the polls, nothing changed in Australia to justify the rapid drop of the right wing, except Trump.
Lieberals were in front for a long time, and then trump started his bullshit and Labor came from behind and soared into victory.
Mate.
The Liberals lost so hard 2 elections ago that they were never going to win despite what any opinion poll may have said. Dutton ran on a platform of nothing, and never had one positive public moment. The party has been running around like a headless chook and will continue to do so.
The Libs lost because of Dutton, not because of Trump.
I mean the world can fix a broken US democracy by boycotting the US entirely on all fronts until a democratic country emerges.
This will take a while though as we have seen with South Africa.
Doubt it would play out that way in the US. They're much more likely to take military action when the world cuts them out since making weapons is what made them rich and you can't keep making weapons without using or selling them.
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As long as neoliberals are the only alternative, fascism will always come back.
You mean modern liberals? Neoliberalism is about as far-right as fascism.
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Better late than never I suppose. Congrats everyone else.
I'll take it. Really. It sucks for us. But if this is what it takes to get everyone else to kick this bullshit ass ideology and actually get on with progress over stagnation let's fucking go.
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One can hope, but each time I get optimistic, some crazy bullshit goes down.
It's not Trumpism, it's fascism.
😂
Those things are, in fact, equivalent.
Squares are to rectangles as Trumpism is to fascism.
I sure hope this is right…