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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is how a greedy person thinks. It's morbid, but fascinating.

I am not in a financial race against the people who do not tip. And if this guy thinks I am then he failed to factor in that people pleasers probably go a lot further socially in life and thus are likely to make more money. Maybe I tip not because I want to please, but because I have more expendable income than the average self-limiting greedy asshole.

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[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

In the US, servers and restaurant staff tip like 100% of the time they go out because they know how important it is with our current pay laws, and they know that the waiter expecting that tip isn't the one making the laws or who deserves to be punished for them. So that tip is almost always going to someone else who also tips.

Btw, don't bother arguing with me that tipping is wrong so we shouldn't do it. I agree that it's wrong, but abstaining punishes the wrong people (servers, not owners or policymakers). So instead of writing a comment, write a letter to you local govt to eliminate sub-minimum wages for tipped workers, and keep tipping poor waiters and drivers til they change something.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All the things I've read say that a majority of tipped workers (as well as the general population) prefer the current tips system. Maybe it's not true, but looking at the comments here it seems accurate.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Former tipped employee here. This is probably correct, but I don't care. The majority is often wrong. They can be educated. Change is scary, and the people who benefit from the status quo demonize changes that will give them less power.

I would probably have made less money if paid a salary, but it would be worth it to not have to balance priorities between getting a good tip and following restaurant policies.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The only way you can help increase the wages is to not tip, all it does is subsidize the owners

[–] Merva@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately as this very thread shows, a lot of Americans are mindbogglingly not in agreement about that. Which explains a lot about the current predicament of the country.

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[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (26 children)
[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 1 day ago (8 children)

If you're somewhere like Australia or Japan, where it's not a normal part of the culture, then fine

If you're somewhere in the US where the laws around pay are shitty, and people rely on tips to survive, then you're a cunt for not tipping

I think tipping is shit, and that people should just be paid properly, but I'm not blind to the realities of life when I travel. So I do what is appropriate to be a decent person

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