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[–] callyral@pawb.social 2 points 48 minutes ago

you owe that question no honesty

[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 7 hours ago

If you're getting quizzed on subjective questions and ideology, it's time to back away.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago

I always respond and give the "right" answers because it's either an HR psychopath checking your answers to see if you're a dangerous unionist or now a damn AI.

So yes I'd like to kill myself for your company, then find something else and EAT SHIT

If it was a worker-owned co-op they'd be the same... but it never is.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Acquired responsibility under a working contract ≠ Motivation for signing a working contract

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 16 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Sure but we are responsible for our own health and that of our family also, so the main objective for many is to obtain “stable employment” the more invisible, the better.

Work to live. Not live to work.

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[–] javasux@lemmy.world 33 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Responsibility and objective are two different things

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 10 points 10 hours ago

My primary responsibility is to take care of me and my family by earning enough money to pay my bills.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 16 points 17 hours ago

Well damn that's a good point. But what a weird ass question.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 166 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I've heard these described as a "legally acceptable way of filtering out people with autism" and man I've not seen them the same way since.

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think it would just filter people who know what the correct answer is supposed to be.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, I just also believe that the people who don't know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

in my experience, I'm the autistic one, and I have to explain it to the normies what's going on with these kinds of questions.

Truth is irrelevant.

Innocence proves nothing.

Being right doesn't matter.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Not that I necessarily think they're trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there's one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.

Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?

Me: No.

IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?

Me (married): Well, it's not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7... you know what, I'm just going to mark it No.

IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?

Me: No.

IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?

Me: I'M TELLING YOU, I CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!

[–] Taewyth@jlai.lu 1 points 49 minutes ago

Well in the case of blood donation it's more about not taking/giving blood thzt might have ISTs.

The questions you listes are "interesting" but i think something closer to the issue here (i.e filtering out people out of bigottry) would be like "in the last 4 months have you had sex with someone of the dame sex ?"

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like you need to improve your communication with your wife about her potential IV drug use and extramarital affairs.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't watch her 24 hours a day! I can't say, with certainty, that she doesn't transform into a dragon and fight gremlins in a parallel dimension when I'm not around! It's a fundamentally impossible question to answer, short of "To the best of my knowledge..."

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago

ok this one is kinda funny

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 17 hours ago

Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I have had a theory that the personality tests are just to have an excuse to discriminate with plausible deniability.

[–] bored_boar_onboard@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is absolutely the case. In the documentary “The Fog of War” (a great documentary IMO) Robert McNamara explains how he helped create a personality test to screen applicants for Ford (I think it was them).

One of the questions was “Would you rather be a coal miner or a florist?”. McNamara says his family had owned a florist but the answer they wanted coal miner. For “obvious reasons”.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't think the reason is obvious at all. Is it because coal mining is hard work?

[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 12 hours ago

Yep quite a few years back I had two jobs lined up , already got the first but the second one wanted a second interview after I filled in a 50 page personality test. I felt the first offer would be interesting and better paid but wanted to see what they offered. So I said why not just be completely honest instead of faking it :) very interesting interview, I just told them that whoever sold them this idea was probably a very good salesman. The tool is just pointless. I got to much risk taking etc , yea I like skydiving.. I'm not skydiving at work. .. if you want people to bullshit you it's pretty good though haha

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Masking takes care of this, but possibly not for all.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

In what way? Are autistic people more likely to value company profits over personal goals?

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

No, but they’re more likely to answer honestly (that they get a job for wage).

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My understanding is more that it presents a "logically correct" choice (making money to pay bills and be generally... alive) and a "socially correct" choice (the corporate answer) to filter people out.

[–] Caesium@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago

yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don't get a response.

fuck corpos man

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 26 points 23 hours ago

That explains a LOT.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 35 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

As soon as I read the responses I knew what this was. Guys you have no obligation to believe any of the training they give you. You know what the answers are supposed to be to be. Just tell them what they want to hear and keep going. They are still legally responsible for what happens on the job. This is just something they do to get rid of people or prevent people from getting hired.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

And what is it? I had something similiar in my work integration training of the ... unemploynent insurance fund(?).

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I owned the means of production, then answer #1 would be okay.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or if they had profit sharing, that actually used to be a thing.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 25 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

People all collectively forgot that that was the piece that made America great in the 50s.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

iirc in the 50s the us taxed rich people out of 90% of their wealth.

obviously they rolled that back because they werent deposed like they should be, but really makes you think.

Officially this was the case, but nobody really paid that. Capital gains were still around 20%, around where they're at today, and that's how most of them got wealthy.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 20 points 20 hours ago

Remember to tell them what they want to hear and they will do the same but we all know it is just a game.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i want all business owners to know: i, and millions like me, lie through my fucking teeth on these "surveys," telling you what we know you want to hear, while quiet quitting every minute of every day. because fuck you

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They know, they don't care. Read bullshit jobs

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[–] roude@lemmynsfw.com 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I would think that any business having this on an employment screener would be a huge red flag. But also, part of being a seasoned (read: weathered) corporate wage slave is answering nonsense like this with the corpo-appropriate response and NOT your actual thoughts.

"Of course branded Patagonia vests would be a great gift for the new hires, I’m sure they love working 8 hours a day and then hawking the business in their off time."

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

help your CEO get that hefty bonus

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Even the chosen answer is like the bottom minimum of what I expect of a job.

I'd like to be able to pay my bills and have something left at the end I can splurge on something else.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Like a nice suit for the office? Right?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

A faster car, to get to the office more quickly of course

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