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Prime Minister Mark Carney said he has had talks with Donald Trump about it. The defense system is designed to detect, track and potentially intercept incoming missiles.

Canada is conducting "high level" talks with the United States over joining Donald Trump's proposed "Golden Dome" missile defense program, Prime Minister Mark Carney said on Wednesday.

Trump announced his plans the previous day to develop the multilayered, $175 billion (€155 billion) system with ground- and space-based capabilities that can defend against a wide range of enemy weapons, like drones, hypersonic and cruise missiles, and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

The US President said he expected the missile shield to be ready by the end of his second term in 2029.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

175 billion dollars to build a thing in just a few years that's meant to protect America from attacks...

What attacks? Terrorists hijacking planes? Russians capturing the presidency? Right wing extremism? School shootings?

There's nothing immediate. And some trumpy dome doesn't sound like we're future proofing anything but Lockheed Martin's bank accounts.

Let's be honest, what dome? They couldn't even build a wall against the Mexicans, and now a dome. What's the point? LMAO

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Trump announced his plans the previous day to develop the multilayered, $175 billion (€155 billion) system with ground- and space-based capabilities that can defend against a wide range of enemy weapons

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II_development

the program was expected over its lifetime (until 2070) to cost $406.5 billion for acquisition of the jets and $1.1 trillion for operations and maintenance.

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 5 points 15 hours ago

blud thinks he's on the team 💀

[–] rxbudian@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

US is probably trying to get some of the benefits that new Over-The-Horizon Radar that Canada just bought from Australia. Just remember, Canada needs the Dome less than US since US is more aggressive abroad. So don't get trampled in the negotiations. plus, it probably wouldn't protect Canada if the missile comes from inside the dome.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.snekerpimp.space 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This would be such a dumb decision. Does anyone remember Star Wars? Not the movie, the defense system Regan started? Isn’t this the same thing? It will never come to fruition, billions of dollars will disappear into private company’s pockets.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

billions of dollars will disappear into private company’s pockets.

That’s probably the whole purpose of it.

[–] jasonwnclife@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Advancements in technology since Reagan’s attempt makes this more feasible today. While it is more technically feasible it is just as stupid now as it was then.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

How? Hypersonic missiles should make it more difficult.

Add automation for cheap production costs and any defence system can be overwhelmed.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Let's spend a tonne of money to try to break mutually-assured destruction so we can have a whole new nuclear arms race"

[–] jasonwnclife@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago
[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do it, Canada, then stall and stall and stall on your end. Put the Canadian Golden Dome HQ in Quebec and send all communication in French. Also, use the metric system. They’ll never know what hit them. C’est magnifique

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't wait for the US to shoot a missile into their own land because they don't know the difference between kilos and miles

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

If I recall correctly, that’s already happened with a space mission (I think it was a Mars satellite). The EU used kilometers, which is the scientific norm anyway, and for some reason, the US used miles. The trajectory was WAY off.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 30 points 1 day ago

The only enemy Canada currently needs protection from is the U.S. This "golden dome" isn't to protect Canada but to keep outside support out when the U.S. finally invades. As general Ackbar said "it's a trap".

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Come on Canada, don't fall for any Trump bullshit. It has a flashy name but will be full of grift and empty promises.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Oh totally - remember space force from the last Trump administration ?

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

I can’t emphasize this enough: DO NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING UPFRONT

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah how is this not bending the knee and becoming the 51 state?

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago

Diplomacy often means appearing to do one thing while actually doing another.

They smile and nod, get tariffs exemptions, then somehow never actually involve themselves in this shambles.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you think really hard, you may find a difference between Starwars As a Service and gargling Trump's tiny boner. It's a subtle thing but it's there if you look. It's like how when you get milk from the bodega you don't also give the clerk a handjob. Nuance.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Sure buddy enjoy that trump boner. And Bodega leche with hands 😂😂😂

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This will shackle us to the bloated corpse of the US.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Agree. However, stalling works. Canada is great at that.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Shhh, don't give away our secrets

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

As long as it doesn't become this era's Avro Arrow.

We should be buying European missle defense while developing our own.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not great to see from Canada.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

To be fair, not great to see from anywhere.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 19 hours ago

I don't trust Trump to execute it properly, tbh.

Honestly though, anti-missile shields are something we (humanity) needs. Any moron these days can throw it all away in a suicidal instant, now that Putin started a new war and now we have a bunch of smaller wars all over.

But DART showed the promise of orbital defenses, and I'd rather we have some semblance of countermeasures against large meteors, which this is a step towards doing. (Still, climate change is the existential threat that the entire world should be focusing on)

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I really hope they realize this is nothing more than a means of shoveling massive sums of money to the MIC with little to nothing to show for it other than a “strong economy.”

[–] tartarin@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

It's a trap!

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Feel sorry for our northern neighbors in all this. Whatever the hell Trump is planning that would require the golden dome defense system, Canada doesn’t want to be catching strays from the conflict. But damn, what a terrible waste of resources.

Build dat wall I guess. Idiots.

[–] Haus@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago

Named after Trump's wig?

[–] refreeze@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Carney just won for his anti-Trump stance. And now dude's making deals with him just a couple weeks later.

Canadians, are you pissed off?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We didn't vote for Carney for his hatred of Trump. If we voted for Carney's party, it was because the alternative would have already sold us out completely.

...Like, in a heartbeat. We'd already be rounding up the inuit and sending them to Trinidad or something equally as wrong. I'd be saving my money for my routine MRI coming up. We'd be dismantling the train system to make some offensive statue of Milhouse the Squatter.

Are you suggesting we'd think Carney's perfect and not merely the better of two imperfect choices? Do you know how politics works?

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I'm going off headlines. So maybe the reality has been distorted. But as a non-Canadian looking in this is how it's been presented to us

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

People like OP are either malicious or stupid. Or bots. Rather than try to make their guy look good, they try to make everyone else look bad.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I'm definitely annoyed at the optics of it if nothing else, but for now I am cautiously optimistic that they know what they are doing and that this is a carefully calculated discussion.