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Never have I been in so much pain in my LIFE SMH

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[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Yes please cause FUCK the "women don't have pain receptors down there"... IUDs and Cervical Cancer cancer biopsies are the 3rd and 4th most painful experiences I've ever had.

#2 is spinal tap, #1 is a labiaplasty.. mine was medically necessary, but I want to scream at everyone who feels they need a labiaplasty to feel beautiful... 1 year of pain, 6 months without orgasms, so many complications, I screamed so loudly they had to sedate me again because I was TERRIFYING people in the hospital. It hurt so badly I thought death was preferable.

[–] SirDankbud@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My wife came home from getting hers still in tears from the pain. I offered to go with, but the doctor made her believe it was nothing. Not content in simply hurting my wife, they set the string so it cut my fucking frenulum the next time we had sex! Took us nine months to find and book a competent gyno to fix her razor vag.

The worst part is my wife got the IUD because it was recommended by the gyno after she had a tubal ligation. It was not there to prevent pregnancy. They claimed it would make her period easier, the opposite was true. All that trauma and pain for nothing.

[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Wtf?! My doctor suggested Endometrial Ablation and it was PHENOMENAL. Yeah, they put an electrical net inside of my uterus and burned the shit out of me, but it was a one time thing and it stopped my periods, PMDD, mood swings, and lessened the chance of my Endometriosis coming back. More women need to do this. I'm so so happy.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago

I wish I had received a realistic expectation when I went. Aside from vomiting in the parking lot after, I should have found someone to drive me. I had a very very hard time getting home and I shouldn’t have driven at all. I’m lucky I didn’t cause an accident.

[–] nalinna@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only male doctor at my ob/gyn was visibly angry when I told him my experience getting the IUD. He said, "The women in this practice don't give anesthetic and it makes me furious with them." Way to be a decent human in a sea of assholes, dude.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is my experience too, ironically. Lmao. One woman I even chose for her compassionate care awards. I never saw her again. I still generally seek out women doctors for other things.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My guess is that women who have had their pain dismissed for their entire lives fall into the trap of internalizing the dismissal.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 30 points 1 day ago

This is actually a pretty good thought.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can see why male doctors would be ignorant, but wtf is the excuse of female doctors here?

[–] yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I had to suffer through it and I'm fine"

[–] Sybilvane@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm a woman and my first IUD insertion really didn't hurt me very much. Uncomfortable, but quick and not too bad.

But when my friends complained about the pain during theirs, I believed them. Because we are all different people with wildly different bodies. I have empathy.

It's not a difficult concept, but I think a lot of people struggle with it. "It was fine for me so anyone who complaints is making it up!"

Anyway, when I went to get my IUD replaced, the second insertion was absolute hell, so now I really get it. But I didn't need to go through it myself to believe people when they say they experience pain. There's so much evidence out there indicating that women experience pain. Is it really so hard to just believe the evidence?

[–] CoolThingAboutMe@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It could also be related to how your cervix changes over your cycle, but that baffles me because surely gynecologists would know that and try to time things correctly if it made things easier for women.

Do they time it based on your cycle at all?

Close to ovulation, your cervix goes really soft and opens up, close to your period it changes position, goes really firm and closes.

I haven't gotten an IUD so I have no personal experience with the process, but I imagine that trying to put an object through the cervix into the uterus would be best done at ovulation when your cervix is open. And probably extremely difficult and painful to try to do when your cervix is shut tight.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

No, they time it when they have appointments open.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm just some single middle aged loser, and even i don't understand why people can't accept that everyone is different and anyone can have drastically different experiences for the seemingly same things.

40 years later i still cannot understand other people. I hate living in this world... And relatively im lucky

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 68 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I believe I read that "women are unreliable informants of pain due to emotions. Where as a man can suppress his emotions and you get a real assessment of his pain." Or something like that.

I'm a man, and, it doesn't take a lot of study to know that pain is very different from emotional stress, especially when it involves GENITALS.

Since being seen by a neurologist for carpal tunnel, i have come to the conclusion that some doctors are just plain sadists. And I wonder if all this maltreatment of women came from some early docs that got together and went "y'know, we could cherry pick things here or there so we can get some good screams out of patients." It worked too well, and they decided to protect it through practice because it was too much fun.

But I know the reality is that medicine is just plain sexist, and historically women were just "less important." It's fucked up.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 6 points 22 hours ago

I have cystic fibrosis so I’m a professional patient since birth. I don’t actually believe most doctors are sadist, maybe a good chunk of surgeons though… I think it’s more that med school is its own sort of brain washing, the worship of protocol and deep seated beliefs of the quality of their knowledge churns out doctors who have been through the ringer and can become self righteous because of it, it’s incredibly rigorous, you’re sleep deprived, you’re being fed knowledge for hours and hours a day… it makes you incredibly susceptible to accepting knowledge without question. A lot of them need to believe what their doing is humane, is correct, that thier knowledge is valid so it justifies their whatever is happening and their knowledge also already told them how much this hurts, they don’t get knowledge from patients just information.

The way doctors are trained is a huge part of the problem, the way patient care is approached is just as bad, it goes back to academia as well, most studies do not include women in any capacity so their experiences are not reflected in the knowledge doctors do have. I think most doctors are normal people with good and bad traits and approach medicine in the way they were taught to, medicine as an institution simply does not value the experience of the patient, only the outcome of the treatment on the physical body, as if the mind, where pain happens to happen, is divorced from the body.

[–] arality@programming.dev 26 points 1 day ago

i have come to the conclusion that some doctors are just plain sadists.

A few years ago I was in therapy for my shoulder. A new guy started, and we were small talking. He mentions he hopes the economy doesn't become socialist, because then he won't make as much money being a docter when he's finished with school. We've completely lost the plot.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 day ago

Hey doc, you must confuse your emotions with me punching you.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's literally fucking insane that it wasn't recommended until, like, this month.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Those women weren't actually in pain, they just needed to lose weight!

[–] flughoernchen@feddit.org 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also, the pain is not real, they're just feeling like it was.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also they're experiencing female hysteria

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Some people pay extra for that treatment.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago

If it was real pain, the body has ways of rejecting it

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

I hate upvoting this comment so much. My wife had some complications with pregnancy that doctors kept just choosing to ignore and sometimes flat out made negative comments about her weight. But when we try to find out "hey, this weight sticks around even when eating crazy healthy and walking 4 miles a day, what gives?" she still just gets blown off and told to eat less cake

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You would think the fact that literally every single woman who has ever had medical care has had their problems ignored would get people more engaged in making doctors take women more seriously

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

When the ‘Father of Modern Gynecology’ is a douche like this, it’s really not that surprising that women continue to be ignored.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just googled around a bit and there seem to be a lot of studies showing that the common medications don't do much/ arent worth it. Maybe that's why it wasn't recommended? There seems to be a lack of research into what even causes the pain and how to prevent it

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Then we need more studies starting 50 years ago at least. Regardless, placebo is a thing. We give pain meds all the time knowing they do next to nothing with minimal side effects, give the girls some oxy, or robaxin, or fentanyl. Those are the easiest drugs for me to ask a doctor to prescribe for pain, and having a 1 time dose in a doctor's office will not make you an addict.

[–] grumpasaurusrex@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I got mine in they gave me local anesthesia, and it was still the most painful experience of my life. Turns out rummaging around in your innards produces a type of pain unlike anything I've ever felt. I truly can't imagine how awful it must be without any anesthesia.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago

I had my uterus inflated with saline for an ultrasound screening before an ablation. It wasn’t a lot of liquid, but it was an absolute screaming amount of pain, and they said it wouldn’t hurt.. I knew it would because I’ve had several iud insertions but they refused when I requested something, anything at all, for the pain..

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

I've got 2x whats literally called "painful rib syndrome" in English and I can barely get ibuprofen.

[–] LavaPlanet@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry for some reason my rely appeared here rather than where I aimed it.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

No worries. I think you better check it's spelling again though, you called me "exist". I don't discriminate against my exes.

I think you meant to call someone sexist, what with the hysteria mention there.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I sat in the room as my wife experienced the most brutal pain she has ever gone through. That woman has such a high pain tolerance that she scares me. And yet I felt sick just hearing her. The fact that they don’t anesthetize for this is criminal and fucking embarrassing as a society.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Even just some novocaine does wonders. I'm due a new one and I keep putting it off. I've had 3. One they gave me (fairly useless) paracetamol. I had one without anything and one with novocaine. Ironically the latter was my first (15 years ago!!). They seem to have gotten worse each time.

Paracetamol?! Not only would that be largely ineffective at preventing pain, it takes 30-60 minutes to start working. The incompetence astounds.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Apparently Misoprostol is sometimes given before to soften the cervix

And you're supposed to do it during your period

[–] damdy@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Never knew it was commonly painful, I've heard from people I know it was like a slight pinch on insertion and then no pain afterwards.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 9 points 22 hours ago

I’ve literally never heard anyone say this and I have dozens of friends over the years dealing with these things.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't worry, taking cervical biopsy samples will still be full of pain - why would anyone need painkillers? There are no nerve endings, so there should be no pain

closes ears to personal testimony

[–] Truffle@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That medical gaslighting line drives me insane: tHeRe aRe No nErVe eNdInGs SO wHaT YoU are feeling is not pain.

Just STFU and listen to patients! Why is it so damn hard? "You also need to lose weight and _____ willgo away" is another favorite.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 3 points 5 hours ago

I have people who Have documented nerve damage and can’t feel anything. I still numb them up, simply because we can have knockdown effects like vagus nerve stimulation even if they can’t consciously feel it. There’s still a response and, it doesn’t cost me much of anything to numb up an area just like normal.