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[–] Primax@lemmy.world 70 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

It's coming true.

And again "tariff must be paid by Apple" really shows that he still has no idea how they work.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Made in India + 25% tariff is still cheaper than made in Murica.

That BS is just for media.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Well, technically, any kind of tariff added to the import is always paid by Apple, who else would pay it? Some unrelated company? A foreign country?

They will simply increase the price by an amount that will keep them making the same amount of money. The main problem is that because they like to do a round price worldwide, we European we'll pay more too, so they can make more money. Assholes

[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If Apple can push the price further into the thousands won't Samsung, etc follow anyway?

People thought a phone that was $1000 would never sell, Apple came out with the pro models and now here we are with the high end models all being a thousand plus.

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[–] foodconsumer@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

iPhones not iPhone's... Who let this idiot be in charge of anybody? Did he even go to school?

[–] foodconsumer@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

& Just that entire sentence is atrociously bad

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 9 points 13 hours ago

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[–] foodconsumer@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

LMFAO it's the entire fucking tweet!! Thank your for your... omg you are the president of the united states get grammarly or something...you sound even dumber than the people who voted for you...

[–] Nocomment@reddthat.com 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

An extra 25% must be paid by consumers. Like every other tariff. New taxes be like that.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

And knowing the cult of Apple, they'll pay it because it makes them look wealthy. That is the whole culture of Apple Customer base.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

'What's up, everybody? This is your boy Apple Lad, and I came through with one of those Tariff I Phones, just so I can unbox it for you!

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[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 25 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Good fuck apple they probably donated to trump

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 8 points 12 hours ago

They did, or at least Tim Cook did.

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[–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 32 points 14 hours ago

This is what you get for bending down to the tyrant in inauguration day. You cant appease tyrants, you must fight them.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 23 points 15 hours ago

Such smol govment

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 47 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Killing Biden's CHIPs act certainly didn't help that cause.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Problem is that it had bidens sign on it, so he was forced to kill it without even taking care of its contents

[–] Vikthor@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

No he wasn't. It's just because of his his pride and idiocy that he thinks he was.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

He will kill and reinstate it to sell it as his own doing.
Obviously guided by his counselers and consultants.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Oh, like NAFTA!

[–] TorJansen@sh.itjust.works 87 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I see the problem here. He's talking to Tim Cook, who's CEO of some cooking company. He needs to talk to Tim Apple.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It is paid by consumers, not Apple. Other phone companies will raise prices as well to increase their profits, since iPhone prices will set a new high price. When Apple prices goes up 25% other phone companies can increase their prices by 15% and still be competitive to apple.

Actually to make same profit due to lower phone sales Apple may have to raise price even higher than 25% or find other ways to get consumers to pay more. Die hard fans of Apple will buy, whatever the price.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

What a fucking idiot

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Failed business man telling people how to run their businesses. I’ve got an idea about how to make American manufacturing cheaper universal healthcare.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 103 points 22 hours ago (28 children)

you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.

NEVER.

a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?

let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.

the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?

so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.

and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.

all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.

[–] Maverick604@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

THIS IS WHY TARIFFS NEVER WORK. In the long term tariffs actually encourage manufacturing to leave the country charging tariffs, not move manufacturing there. It’s much cheaper to pay the tariffs once, on the final product, than to pay the tariffs on every part that is required moving back and forth across an “imaginary line” (border in Trump-speak).

None of Trump’s tariff bolstering hurts Apple at all. They are a global company and can easily adjust around the asinine policies of America for a few years. Americans will get sick of paying a minimum of 25% more for EVERYTHING, while the rest of the world continues on as if nothing happened. Eventually Americans will see that the rest of the world has all the nice things and they’ve become a self imposed Soviet-era block country that has nothing and has to line up for toilet paper, and they’ll be right pissed. Until then, enjoy your delusion. 👏

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

tariffs could work if you're not the US. the problem is the US doesn't make anything.

for normal countries you could use tariffs to encourage products made inside the country. but for that to haopen:

  1. you need the products to already be manufactured inside the country
  2. you need to have targeted tariffs that apply specifically to those products and not blanket tariffs that would apply to each and every part of product, which would make it infinitely more expensive to manufacture inside the country than outside.

so for example if your country has a decent production of bananas but people for some reason prefer to buy imported bananas way more than homemade ones, you might have some tariffs on bananas to try and reduce waste.

for that to be effective, you can't also have tariffs on soil, farming equipment and whatnot that might be going into your homemade potato production. otherwise you'd have homemade potatoes more expensive then imported ones.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Tariffs can also be an effective way of balancing buisness advantages. An example: Germany has quite high standards in its farming sector. This applys to what pesticides you are allowed to use, how much fertiliser you can use, what conditions animals have to live in and so on. Everything that you have to do to comply with these rules costs money, so in order to still make a profit you need to charge quite high prices. If you then compare these with the almost non existent standards of, as example Brazil, you quickly realise, that they are capable of producing goods much cheaper (who could have guessed, that its cheaper if you can just imassively increase your land by land grabbing, giving a shit on everything and using the most efficient, but very cruel, ways to feed and hold your livestock). Due to this, beef that gets imported into Germany from Brazil, thanks to Mercosur without any tariffs, will be magnitudes cheaper than locally made. This kills your local farming sector and also does massive damage to Brazil's citizen and enviroment (its a massive brainfuck how farming works there). If you want to counteract this you could charge tariffs, so that the consumer starts preferring locally made products, because they are cheaper. This also is an incentive for Brazil to better regulate its farming industry.

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[–] Vari@lemm.ee 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It would take MINIMUM 10 years to even come close to like 60% manufactured in US. And that’s assuming the US upends the entire global tech industry by coming even kind of close to TSMC’s chip manufacturing tech.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Tim Apple could just buy him a fucking plane and be done with it. And that would open up some interesting opportunities, nahmean?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It’s what I’d do if I were an ambitious, resource hoarding, ass pimple billionaire.

It’s obvious the way to Trump’s heart is to tell him he’s pretty and give him something .

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah make him a custom iPhone with a unibody out of pure gold?

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

You can know the impact of what building in the US would be by looking at Purism. They sell a Linux phone for $800. If you want the same phone built in the US, they charge $2000.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 49 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."

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