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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by rainrain@sh.itjust.works to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world
 

Everybody privately shit-talks everybody. The phone always listens to it and records it. A viral hack that turns all this shit-talking into texts. Everybody in the world suddenly gets a thousand shit-talking texts from their family, friends and associates. Society dissolves.

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[–] iii@mander.xyz 39 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Everybody privately shit-talks everybody

That's not the case 😕

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Oooh, edgy. Few problems:

List of logical fallacies

  1. Hasty Generalization

"Everybody privately shit-talks everybody." Assumes a universal truth based on limited or anecdotal experience. Not everyone engages in this behavior

  1. False Premise

"The phone always listens to it and records it." This is factually untrue for most users and makes the argument invalid from the start. The conclusion based on this premise (a hack turning that into texts) relies on a false understanding of technology.

  1. Slippery Slope (Implied)

"A viral hack that turns all this shit-talking into texts."

Implied assumption: this will definitely go viral and cause massive disruption. It assumes a cascade of dramatic consequences without evidence.

  1. Appeal to Cynicism

"Everybody privately shit-talks everybody." Uses an exaggeratedly negative view of human nature as a foundation to justify or normalize antisocial behavior.

  1. Moral Equivalence

By implying that since everyone does it, exposing it via a viral hack is just revealing the "truth" and therefore not really unethical, it downplays the maliciousness of the hypothetical hack.

Basically, your entire premise is a heap of logical fallacy and edgelord cringe.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I got BINGO! What do I win?

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

OP is telling on themselves here

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago (39 children)
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[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I will never understand trolls

[–] remon@ani.social 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So basically the plot of the South Park troll trace arc in season 20.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Your phone is in fact listening. Thats proven by a whistleblower from apple. But it doesnt need to, youre correct on that point.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Darn, someone else beat me to it, but as they said, this was largely debunked. We already knew that data is collected every time you say “Siri”. That’s not the same as constant and passive data collection without activation.

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[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

proven by a whistleblower from apple

Assuming you have an iPhone. And even then, the whistleblower you’re referencing was part of a team who reviewed utterances by users with the “Hey Siri” wake word feature enabled. If you had Siri disabled entirely or had the wake word feature disabled, you weren’t impacted at all.

This may have been limited to impacting only users who also had some option like “Improve Siri and Dictation” enabled, but it’s not clear. Today, the Privacy Policy explicitly says that Apple can have employees review your interactions with Siri and Dictation (my understanding is the reason for the settlement is that they were not explicit that human review was occurring). I strongly recommend disabling that setting, particularly if you have a wake word enabled.

If you have wake words enabled on your phone or device, your phone has to listen to be able to react to them. At that point, of course the phone is listening. Whether it’s sending the info back somewhere is a different story, and there isn’t any evidence that I’m aware of that any major phone company does this.

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