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[–] InfiniteKrebs@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago (9 children)

What do you mean by deal?

One interesting thing I came across a while ago was that Jesus healing people was not very sensational at the time, as spiritual healers were not that rare. What blew people's minds about the healing was that he was doing it for free.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I had a class in college about Jesus. It was taught by a Catholic priest.

One thing he said that stuck with me is that people don't see the real miracles.

When they talk about the miracle of the loaves and fish, people talk about how enough food for the multitude was created out of just what a couple people brought for their own lunch. People think the miracle is the creation of food. However this priest pointed out that the real miracle is that people who didn't know anyone else there gave all they had so that others could eat. Everyone shared so that no one went hungry.

Edit: one other thing that he said that stuck with me was, "Jesus Christ, son of Mary and Joe Christ"

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jesus = basically Josh, son of Mary and Joe

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

... Brother of James, father of Tamika, Joshua and James?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That sounds like a cool priest, but unfortunately Catholicism is still against gay marriage, meaning they are still discriminating.

[–] IllusiveSun@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Catholicism across the board isn’t against gay marriage, different people believe different things.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

That's strange, because the old pope was. I thought he was supposed to be the one defining catholicism more than anybody else.

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[–] remon@ani.social 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Them deal was they fictional.

[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Remember the prime directive.

Did he really do them though? The reason why this is within the scope of belief is the fact that there's no conclusive evidence that removes reasonable doubt by contemporary standards.

Let's say it's all exactly as it says in the four different versions that are somehow considered canon and none of it is a millennia old game of telephone: did he choose to do them? Did his dad force him? Could he maybe not have had free will in this regard? Do we know about all the miracles? Maybe there were more! Would it be fair for us today to judge him based on incomplete records?

[–] civilcoder@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can make fun of religion nowadays, sure, very original, or ignore the question and talk about historical accuracy, alright. But if you want an answer what is compelling and mythical about these stories, try not to take them literal. Just like fairytales, they have something psychological about them. E.g. when Jesus made the blind see, this is about depression and how it is cured. Try to cast a friendly eye on the whole topic.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

What's it about when he curses that fig tree cuz I heard some stuff about the non-literal symbolism.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

He was literally hangry. Immediately after he curses the out-of-season tree, he goes into the temple and has his famous hissy fit, overturning tables and shit. It's basically the ultimate Snickers commercial. Read for yourself:

12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:

13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.

14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.

15 And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;

[–] corvett@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Figs are sweet, and in the old testament were a symbol for wisdom, especially wisdom from your teacher.

Jesus was condemning the corrupt religious mafia that was in cahoots with the Romans and Herod, and not doing its job in teaching and being a blessing to the people.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The fig tree is symbolic of the apple tree in the garden of Eden. Jesus cursing the tree to not bear fruit shows how he has come to stop original sin.

And if you buy that bullshit I just made up, you'll really enjoy church.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, Jesus ate a bunch of figs, shit his brains out, then used his god powers to curse the fig tree for making him shit his brains out.

[–] oo1 1 points 2 days ago

It was a typo, he actually cursed gifs because he was sick of all the memes.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, yes. Very clever. Not contributing but don't you look smart.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My contribution is just as valid, unless you're looking to hear from people who read the original Aramaic.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago

Genuinely, that's not how literary criticism works.

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[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The physical miracle demonstrates his identity and power, but they have a spiritual significance beyond the physical. For example, raising the dead indicated that He is the Creator with power over life and death, but also that He can give spiritual life to people dead in their sins.

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