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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 154 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People did know about the genocide in WWII. They were flying planes over the camps. But when the soldiers arrived and took pictures the world learned the horrifying details.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 122 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The difference is, we have the pictures now.

[–] Legume5534@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"People did know"

"But then people knew more than that".

You just now.

[–] Charapaso@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Why are you saying that is if it's contradictory? I know that Russia invaded Ukraine. I can see the horrifying details by watching drone videos. I can know something generally without knowing the details

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 1 month ago

They 100% knew about the Holocaust and as a Jewish person its extremely telling. Anyone who isnt actively calling out the genocide in Palestine is complicit.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 70 points 1 month ago

Realistically I suspect what they'd actually say is just to deny that it ever happened, or worse, to claim that it was good or necessary or inevitable in some way.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Swiss government knew as early as 1941. If we knew, the UK with their vastly better intelligence services definitely knew, and their allies probably too.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't the Swiss remain neutral during the entire war?

[–] Nay@feddit.nl 25 points 1 month ago

"I chose to be willfully ignorant!!"

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Alternatively, I refused to see

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago

They also knew about it before the end of the war and the genocide of the Nazis was announced before it happened. Some attempts at damage control against the Nazi regime were maid such as conceding the Sudetenland and the Anschluss of Austria. They did try to stop the Nazis it in part, but appeasement did not work.

[–] gaja@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Funny to see how history is repeating itself in the US with "internal enemies" being deported to deathcamps outside the country. So much easier to downplay the horrors when the mass killing aren't happening within the country.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Honestly, does it even matter what genocide deniers or people who recognize the genocide say? There's been a lot of discourse, international criminal court investigations, news coverage, protests about Gaza, yet European and American bourgeois governments kept sending billions to Israel and I highly doubt it's due to lack of evidence or that they "didn't know".

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Netanyahu is wanted for crimes against humanity, and yet he is meeting with high ranking officials or even nation leaders...

we all are complicit.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago

I disagree that "we are all complicit", as it's the ruling bourgeois class that makes all of the decisions for funding/meetups and that's who should be blamed, while the working class is largely powerless with the only 'realistic' resistance towards this geopoliticing being protests, which essentially is nothing more than begging.

That's the main point of my comment, and if there's anything we as workers are truly guilty of, it's failing to achieve workers liberation that would remove the need for a bourgeois government that helps maintain and strengthen a zionist state completely. Granted, it's not for the lack of trying - liberals have been really good at violently suppressing and exhausting class conscious thought.

To capitalism, you and me are nothing more than pigs that are kept for their value and slaughtered on the altar of profit whenever the chance arises. Capitalism doesn't care whether there's a genocide happening or not. People care. It is a socialist duty to oppose the mass killing of humans as it is happening today.

Don't expect capitalists to solve your problems. Only people can bring about change.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is @commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com your alt?

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

so true pookie

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

We are experiencing a livestreamed Holocaust!!!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is verified evidence of it.

Even a body count of 50,000 dead so far and millions of displaced starving people who don't have their homes any more. It's been reported, documented, photographed, on video, eye witness accounts, verified by journalists, academics and politicians.

We are all complicit at this point.

In 50 years, the world will blame all of us who are alive now for letting this happen.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

I can only imagine the confusion of someone in the future looking up my posting history around this time. How could we not have used every ounce of our strength to fight this?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I cared but I felt powerless to do anything besides donate to various charities helping the children of Palestine.

There will be consequences for Israel. Just not today.