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This is purely a rant because I don't want to end up writing an effort post about this topic.

Every year, we see Westerners posting about the "Tiananmen Square Massacre" across social media. Their devotion to "fighting the oppressive Chinese government" is like fucking clockwork. It's so reliable that if you wanted to, you can prepare posts and comments to counter their narratives months before each June 4th. The western narrative has been debunked thoroughly even by Western sources.

But the point of this post isn't to complain about the twisting of events, but the glaring contradiction that is their relative (or absolute) lack of posts about events outside of China that were equally or even more brutal than they claim June 4th was.

Why is that?

Why aren't they posting as regularly about the genocide of indigenous people in their own countries? Why aren't they posting so frequently about the massacres in Jakarta? Why aren't they posting as regularly about the bombing of Nagasaki or Hiroshima or Nagasaki or Dresden or Yemen or Iraq of Afghanistan or Syria? Why aren't they posting each year about the famines Britain engineered in India and other countries? Why don't I see yearly posts about the Nanjing Massacre? That also occurred in China. Why don't I see the same reminders about the transatlantic slave trade?

The governments that perpetrated (and in some cases, continue) many of these atrocities still exist and are still oppressing the people who were targeted during these events. This is why they say they target China, right?

Hell, the Holocaust and the subsequent resurgence of facism sees less attention from Westerners than the June 4th incident these days.

The reason for this disparity is that these people don't actually give a shit whether the Chinese people are oppressed. When they say "I hate the Chinese government, but I don't hate the Chinese people," they don't give a shit whether the Chinese people support and continue to build their current government. It's not about supporting others, it's about asserting the dominance and righteousness of the Western world. Not only can they not empathize with those outside the West, they put immense effort into doing the opposite.

It's about convincing themselves that they live in a just society and that, despite how badly they are oppressed, they could always be worse off. It's racist, but that racism serves a purpose: it is the copium that keeps them convinced that it's ok to be oppressed by their own governments.

I don't rant because I expect the sinophobic propaganda to disappear. I rant because I'm tired of the racism. I rant because I'm tired of the ignorance. I rant because all I want is to see people show others a bit of empathy, to show a little skepticism when they are told others are evil, a little curiosity about the other's point of view, but I'm constantly disappointed.

Rant over. Thanks for listening.

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[–] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because "Tiananmen Square" has become a ritual stripped of all its meaning and has just become a way to say lol china bad

[–] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, it's not like politicians or rightists in USA hate killing protesters or using heavy force against protesters...they're projecting

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck all people who kill unarmed protesters in the name of freedom. Wherever, whenever.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's unrelated to this post but yes, you're absolutely right

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except that it also means fuck the people who ordered the killing of unarmed civilians on the Tiananmen square.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there were no such people, so I guess we're still in agreement 👍

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ozriel@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck the American crackdown on student protestors or the Zionist militia that's arresting and killing journalists or anyone speaking against them

[–] AncientMariner@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think we should post about both. I'm British and feel free to critique my government and the shitty actions and war crimes we have conducted in the past. Education and awareness is key.

Is it biased for some to focus on China and not others? Absolutely. Is it racist? No. And that really is a dangerous precedent we shouldn't allow. Israel often uses racism (and accusations of antisemitism) to explain criticism on their actions and focus only on their actions. It absolutely not. Criticism of nation states and their actions of important and we shouldn't allow governments to duck scrutiny. Atrocities committed against people of any race, religion or viewpoint are wrong, and we can never be allowed to justify them, or we are simply no better, just biased in a different way.

I have been worried about trends to suppress and delete comments about it (ml) under the guise of racism. I find liberal biases and whining absolutely tiresome, but giving them justifiable ammunition isn't helping to win any arguments.

I appreciate my post my not be received well, but I certainly feel it is important that it us said.

[–] miz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Education and awareness is key.

so I'm sure you'll read these!

Mango Press: The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.
Red Sails: Another View of Tiananmen

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One question, about something that I always found strange, why are most of the photos of this event in black and white, given that it took place in the 80s?

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Could be the BBC filter.