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It has grown faster, smarter and increasingly invisible, quietly erasing the memory of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre from public view.

Thirty-six years on, Beijing still has not disclosed the official death toll of the bloody crackdown on a pro-democracy gathering on June 4, when more than 1 million protesters were in the square.

Historians estimate that the People's Liberation Army (PLA) killed anywhere from 200 to several thousand people that day.

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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

It has grown faster, smarter and increasingly invisible, quietly erasing the memory of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre from public view.

Thirty-six years on, Beijing still has not disclosed the official death toll of the bloody crackdown on a pro-democracy gathering on June 4, when more than 1 million protesters were in the square.

Historians estimate that the People's Liberation Army (PLA) killed anywhere from 200 to several thousand people that day.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Thirty-six years on, Beijing still has not disclosed the official death toll

They literally have, but I guess it wasn't high enough for the propagandists at the Australian state media outlet, so I guess they're just going to lie.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thirty-six years on, Beijing still has not disclosed the official death toll of the bloody crackdown on a pro-democracy gathering on June 4, when more than 1 million protesters were in the square.

Why are you lying ABC? Wikipedia lists the official death toll as 241.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Those darn time travelling Chinese went back in time or something!

The Chinese government has said the death toll was about 200

From their June, 3, 2009 piece.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=7744479&page=1

Which happens to line up with the lower "historian estimates" they provide in this article...

Historians estimate that the People's Liberation Army (PLA) killed anywhere from 200 to several thousand people that day.

Unironically they probably intentionally changed their story on the governments claims because if the government claims around 200 and many historians claim around 200, then the higher estimates are less likely to be blindly trusted.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wikipedia is not a primary source

What if it agrees with my priors?

[–] procapra@lemm.ee -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Anyone who has used rednote for over an hour knows Chinese people are:

  1. Aware of Tiananmen Square
  2. Acknowledge it as a tragedy
  3. Fully allowed to share that information
[–] schematic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why did Marvel Rivals block me from saying tiananmen square in chat?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Maybe because they don't want deranged westerners ranting about their political grudges in a video game chat?

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are you bringing your gooning game into this?

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Gooning ain't no game

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 1 month ago

Good idea. I'll check it out myself.

In strong opposition to "left wing extremism is as bad as right wing extremism" western propaganda and thought stopping clichés are absolutely as bad as chinese ones if not worse.

The difference is, everyone knows that china oppresses criticism, while people say that their capitalfascist "democracies" would somehow be better.

Capitalism needs to go, first and foremost.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago

Anyone that has used rednote for more than 5 minutes knows that the Chinese people are actually pretty cool and welcoming and friendly to foreigners on their app.

And they also know for absolute fucking sure that the Chinese government has an absolute strangle hold on all the information that goes through there and your post about anything that shuts a negative light on the government would be immediately removed.

Of course, US social media companies are starting to act the same way about anything that's not maga agenda. Shit's getting censored ~~right~~ left and left as violent, while there are no limits on the amount of anti-gay, anti-gaza, anti-trans, anti-minority hatespeech.

[–] Pyro@programming.dev -3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Please, this is blatant misinformation.

[–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

I've literally asked about it on rednote.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No it's not, and finding out for yourself would be extremely easy if you cared to put even a little effort in

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

They saw people typing Tiananmen Square and not showing any result and took it as the truth.

Why would chinese people discuss the event or share pics of the place using the ENGLISH name instead of the chinese one? Thought process too complex...