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I've been thinking about something and want to check an assumption I have. I only hear directly from other people in the USA, and interract with the global community through memes. How are the gun regulations/laws different from yours in terms of strictness, and do you wish there was more or less where you live?

Not looking for a debate here, discuss cold drinks vs hot drinks instead. Appreciate either answer. ❀️

Edit: Thanks for the answers all. I'm super proud how productive eveyone kept this talk. I figured most of you had very different experiences than I. I'll share my most recent experience. I don't have a firearm, but have considered it after being trained enough. When sharing this with "normal" people around town, I had multiple people offer to sell or gift me a gun where the serial number was scratched off and non-traceable. I ofter heard, "oh man, yeah. You need a gun." I have literally never needed one. The fact that people offer to give me one when I don't have a liscence or training shows the mindset of the minority here and how much of a problem a few individuals can make to safety within the current system.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Canadian, not a gun owner but here's the gist: To have guns you need a license and a clean criminal record which is automatically checked so long as you are registered to use them (the PAL). If you are convicted of violent or weapon related crime, you lose privileges. The license has a 28 day mandatory waiting period. Canadian gun owners are free to fact check or clarify this for me.

Once registered can use most long guns, shotguns as they are non-restricted for hunting and typical activities like that (of course you'll need to be registered separately to publicly conduct that activity). Restricted and prohibited weapons like handguns, semiautomatic and automatic weapons can only be possessed or acquired for people who use it as specifically necessary for their occupation, someone who does target practice as part of a registered club (restricted only), collectors knowledgeable on the series of equipment and certain exemptions for old hand-me-downs. Any time you move these categories of firearms to another location, legally you need to fill out a form and notify authorities.

Illegal firearms often show up here after being smuggled from across the border, where they seem to give them out like candy in comparison.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

UK. Much, much, MUCH stricter than the US and I'm very glad.

Portuguese here:

  • There was compulsory male military service, that would be the only place where you could "handle" military grade hardware, aka assault rifles.
  • Currently IIRC, guns are accessible if: you're a military or law enforcement agent, a hunter (rifle or shotgun) or go through a process for a fire arm license due to professional or business reasons (e.g. a goldsmith) for self-defense.
    As well hand guns are limited to "non-military" calibers... for instance 9mm is for government agents solely.

Of course there's black market and use by shady actors...

As for people's personal relationship with guns, most people doesn't care to have one as there's not much violent crime to justify said behavior.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Somewhat related, I found a gun store in Tokyo once, of all places.

[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you sure that wasn't one of their hyper realistic airsoft rifle places??

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@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works in Europe gun ownership is largely illegal. You can get a permit but it need to be approved by the police and the gun you can buy is of limited firepower, like a pistol or something like that. You can also get hunting licenses and that is about it.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

As a native commonwealther, guns are legally a no, but that offers no protection from those who would end up getting one.

Something that bugs me is... weapons wouldn't be needed for defense if booby traps were legal, but those have even less legality in the world than guns, almost as if the whole goal is to make things hard.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But if course they offer protection as they prevent virtually all cases where someone would get a gun in the first place.

That's the reason the US has so many gun related terror attacks: guns are ubiquitous, which means any problem can readily escalate to a gun attack. Getting a gun in most other countries requires a significant amount of commitment that most of these cases wouldn't ever have developed in the first place.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, it decreases the amount of gun violence to criminalize firearms, but if someone is dedicated, this can be circumvented with a black market or some tinkering, and when they do strike, people are more unprepared, giving the suspect almost the same advantage. We not only see this between the different states (since each US state handles firearms differently) but also other nations (the New Zealand and Australian shootings a year or so back were devastating).

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Sure, but you trade a lot of only slightly less bad shootings for very rare if bad shootings.

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[–] rhizophonic@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's not necessarily that much stricter in Europe. It's just guns for self-defense, isn't a thing.

Their are guns everywhere, and everyone who needs a gun has one.

It just stops the random fuckers getting their hands on one for no good reason. Also, automatic weapons are for killing humans. Why even sell those.

[–] V17@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s just guns for self-defense, isn’t a thing.

Not really, it is a thing in Switzerland and Czechia for example.

And even outside of that, not every country has laws as strict as Germany or UK.

[–] rhizophonic@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe they are the only 2 countries, so I feel my generalisation is acceptable.

[–] V17@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Actually no. Self-defense + concealed carry is allowed in Baltic states as well and home defense (=no concealed carry) is also allowed in Italy and Austria.

[–] Quereller@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

No, with very rare exceptions, carrying for self-defense is not allowed in Switzerland.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation

USA: No permit required for semi-automatic long guns and hand guns

Europe: Allowed with permit – good reason (like sport shooting license or proving danger to life required)

So what you say is bullshit.

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